Daniel Christlein quotes about Mozart's 41 "c-d-f-e" theme: >[...] "In fact it took Beethoven three of his late quartets to develop >this motif, the germ-motif of all three quartets, with a psychological >meaning attributed to them by Paul Bekker in his monograph on Beethoven". Beethoven's "germ-motiv" is not equal to Mozart's. Both have the same melodic direction, but quite different intervals (by the way...they sound different). Isn't this distinction important?. >[...] "Beethoven knew the famous four notes. But he surely knew Mozart's >G Major Quartet (dedicated to Haydn) and the 'Jupiter' Symphony as well, in >addition to Haydn's Quartet Fugue in F Minor and his 'Drum-roll' Symphony." This is a good example of "deduced" evidence. Psychiatrists knows this as one of the mechanisms of paranoia. Pablo Massa [log in to unmask]