> I've been approached by a couple with a feral hive in a tree in their > suburban garden; I haven't seen it yet.... they'd > like the bees moved before then if possible, without wrecking the oak tree > they're in. Does anyone know a fairly quick way of getting the bees out ... Every year we get the same question and invariably it draws a lot of guesses, but apparently no one has ever reported here on BEE-L successfully managing to get the bees out with the queen in such a situation. Guesses are fun, I suppose, but they get wild and repetitious (see the logs). http://www.internode.net/honeybee/BEE-L/ The only way I know will work with absolute certainty -- and it is simple enough -- is to make an opening at the =very top= of the cavity for the bees to escape and very, very slowly fill the entire cavity with water (though some other hole). The bees will ALL, including the queen, come out the top, if given enough time to retreat in an orderly fashion and if it is done right. Don't use much, if any, smoke and no chemicals -- these things merely disorganize them and you want them to march out in an orderly fashion and cluster nicely so you can sweep them into a box. They have no choice whatsoever using this technique, and it always works smoothly and quietly, but doing this is not always possible due to location, the nature of the cavity, etc. allen http://www.internode.net/honeybee/Diary/