Christine - I have long-deleted the original post so I can't email you directly. I know how discouraging controversies like this can be for a new LLL (or even an 8 yr oldie like myself) and I hope this will not put you off posting/reading Lactnet! We are a wonderful source of networking and support, so I hope you will not "shut off" due to all of this. Email me privately if you need some stroking after all this (I've been there). I have actually really enjoyed all these posts! I read one, then wait with baited breath for the next post - I guess I just enjoy some heated discussion. Poor Christine, who unwittingly opened this can of worms. I am a CLE and LLL, so I see it a bit from both worlds. LLL's can (not all do) have a slightly different perspective that I might consider when referring mothers to an LC, but I think this depends on the individual LC more than the "background to LCdom." An RN LC can have a similar outlook to an LLL LC - personality, training and approach varies. What I would consider is this LC has a leading, "LLL-type" approach whereas that LC has a direct, no-nonsense approach. These two approaches both have their merits, and will best meet the needs of different mothers. I have seen several times where a mother in crisis is lost with the LLL approach because she needs someone with a high level of confidence and experience who will simply tell her what to do, instead of helping her figure things out for herself! Thanks to all you LC's out there for all you do in a gentle leading way or a no-nonsense approach - mothers need you both (and so do LLL Leaders - after all, we are volunteers)! Michelle CLE, LLLC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Shea" <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 9:13 AM Subject: LC standards ...> Please let me assure you that the intent of my original 2 posts was not meant > to indict LLL trained LCs! ...> To the poster who referred to me as a RN/IBCLC "type".....tsk,tsk,tsk!@#$%^&*! > Lynn Shea Rn,Bsn,Ibclc *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html