?These little tips > have made a big difference in most of the mom's I help. If I had a dime for > every time I have said, the nose and chin must touch the breast (with chin in > a little deeper) I'd be rich!! I wonder if you have seen some of Jack Newman's information about the "asymmetrical latch"? For most babies, when they are latched on this way, the baby's nose does not touch the breast although the chin is quite deep into the breast. I had told mothers for many years that the nose and chin should both be touching, and that position is certainly workable for many babies (and many breasts) but, in my experience, that asymmetrical latch seems to be generally more effective. I've watched many a baby who was doing respectable swallowing with the nose and chin touching, but when moved to an asymmetrical latch we got wonderful gulps of milk with every suck. I think that for many mothers it is anatomically difficult for them to have the baby touching the breast with both nose and chin, and since it is easier for them to see the nose, they end up with the nose in the breast but the chin not really in close. I also want to just give everyone a quick update on my grandson - who was born prematurely and had some difficulties at first but has never had anything but his mother's milk. At ten weeks, he has almost doubled his birthweight (from 4 lbs. 8 oz. at birth to almost 9 pounds) and is filling out beautifully. They spent the afternoon and evening with us yesterday and it gave me such pleasure to see how they are caring for him. His mother is completely relaxed about feeding him - she has no idea how often he feeds because she doesn't even think in terms of feeding. It's more like: he wakes up, seems to be rooting, so she offers him the breast. He nurses for a while, then fills his diaper, so she changes it. Then he nurses a bit more, and lets go to smile at her. She plays with him for a while, perhaps tucks him in the sling or carrier while she does a few things, and then he gets the hiccups. She nurses him to get rid of the hiccups. Changes his diaper again (they use cloth) and then nurses him again. Finally he gets tired, and she nurses him to sleep. He is always in someone's arms (or the sling or BabyTrekker). His parents joked last night that this was one of the few times they both got to eat dinner at the same time - because Uncle Dan held the baby while they ate. He is such a happy, sociable baby, they enjoy him so much and it's lovely to be around them! Teresa Pitman Guelph, Ontario *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html