I unfortunately see a lot of engorged moms with non latching babies on day 4 or 5 postpartum. Once I convince them that ice is not going to make their milk "go away", they are usually happy to try it. Most find it relieves pain of engorgement by reducing swelling. I do only recommend short periods of ice use, just before pumping. Don't want to cause vasoconstriction and increase the edema... -- Catherine Watson Genna, IBCLC New York City mailto:[log in to unmask] *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html