Mark Landson disagrees with me: >>According to me, the main problem with the acceptance of 20th-century >>music is that amateur music-making has dwindled. In part this is due to >>the rise of mechanical and electronic reproduction and, I would add, the >>decline of school music programs > >I'll have to disagree with you. First of all, the quality of professional >classical musicians is at an all time high. Support for this statement deleted. I don't disagree. But professional musicians playing for passive listeners don't give those listeners insight into the music hands-on experience with the music does. Gustav Holst remarked, memorably, that "Anything worth doing is worth doing badly." The fact that amateurs used to go through piano works or piano reductions of orchestral scores gave them an intimacy with the music very few get by "just listening." By the time, for example, the audience attended the orchestral premiere of a Brahms symphony, many in that audience had already several months of familiarity with that music, because they had worked through the piano 4-hands edition (published before the orchestral score in every case) many times. This simply doesn't happen today. Most classical listeners can't even read the music they listen to. >One could infer from that fact that the amateur ranks are also better. But they're also smaller, and this is due in large part to the rise of mechanical reproduction. You don't have to be able to make music yourself in order to hear it, and most people don't. >The other reason that doesn't hold water is that is not how kids decide >to play an instrument. They don't say, "I play the violin, therefore >I like violin music." They come to a certain instrument because they are >attracted to the music they hear. There are certainly no shortage of kids >playing the electric guitar, and they don't even offer that in school. I'm not quite sure which point this is supposed to answer, so if my reply seems off the mark, you know why. My father wasn't particularly attracted to the violin, but -- like many Jewish kids of a certain age (maybe we'll get another Heifetz) -- he was forced to go to lessons. In fact, in the 19th century, many middle-class and wealthy children were subjected to lessons whether they wanted it or not. In the early to mid 20th century, music instruction was a substantial part of public education and the settlement house movement. I would bet that those kids currently playing the electric guitar know something of blues structure, and the better ones probably listen and copy people like Hendrix or Van Halen. However, classical music differs from rock forms. I do know several classical musicians who began music in garage bands, but I have no idea how general this is. All of my acquaintances also eventually went to school to study classical music, precisely because they recognized the forms and procedures differed somewhat. When I say school, I don't mean the music-appreciation horrors customarily perpetrated under the name of musical instruction. I, for example, was taught to sight-read in a public school. I was taught the rudiments of harmonic and score analyses in a public school. I was taught an instrument and choral singing, all in public school. It's been a long time since I've attended, and I have no direct knowledge of what current public-school music programs are like or how extensive, but I have heard the testimony of several public-school music teachers, who complain of the lack of support from their respective administrations and communities. >Thirdly, a piano is an instrument that has never been cheap, and 100 years >ago, a family that owned one would probably be well off. Actually, the piano was a sign of status in many middle- and lower-class homes. One could rent a piano or buy on time. These marketing strategies made the piano affordable. The Gershwins, for example, owned or rented a piano, and they weren't wealthy or middle-class. As for electronic keyboards, most of them really don't help one learn classical music from the inside out or, indeed, keyboard technique. There are so many bells and whistles on the thing, you can sound pretty extraordinary simply by pressing down one note. Steve Schwartz