I have been nomail for a looooong time. Dawn, baby and mum *must, must, must* be treated together. They re-infect each other otherwise. The words your client uses to describe what she is feeling, as far as the pain is concerned, are words used *specifically* and universally by anyone with thrush on their breasts. These words have been collected by two UK lactnetters more qualified than I to talk about Thrush. Diflucan is used in high doses neonatally in most hospitals. Have you discussed with mum that she *must* put on the hottest wash she can, her bras, any clothing that gets wet with breastmilk or bedding, any face cloths, towels. She could also then rinse all these items in a dilute vinegar rinse. She should *not* share any towelling with any other family member. To dry each breast with separate, previously boiled cloths that go straight away into the next boil wash. To boil for no less than 20 minutes all teats/nipples/baby soothers or steam sterilise them. For her to wash her hands and fingers well after going to the loo or changing baby's nappy/diaper. Baby might also have a sore bot - again a sign of thrush. In haste, going to be late for work Kind regards, Helen Woodman, NCT BfC, Storrington, West Sussex UK *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html