John Edwards wrote: > (Before everybody jumps me) My understanding is that bees detect > vibrations in the same way a "stone-deaf" person can detect a car > engine being on or off when they are sitting in it. Would you all > call that "hearing"? Actually I was going to jump on John when he wrote: >> if bees don't hear then why do queens pipe? > so the other bees can detect the vibrations through their feet on > the wood. but I decided he was pulling my leg just a bit. But yes, I would call that hearing. Now I'm off to Webster's to see what he says. hearing: n 1a : the process, function or power of perceiving sound So, YES, I call that hearing. Hearing does not take place in the eardrum in humans or the antenna or feet in bees, hearing (the perception of sound) takes place in the brain! Bees hear. "Stone-deaf" people hear, just not with their ears. Blind people see and read with their hands. Regardless how the input arrives, the senses take place in the brain! Aaron Morris - thinking there's more than one way to skin a cat!