In a message dated 3/9/01 11:53:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: << Language always gives problems. Words have different meanings in different disciplines and different places. What I call warming might be considered by some as heating, but most of us think of body temp as warm and anything over that as hotter. By 130 or so we are getting into scalding. Basically hive temperature of 95 degrees or so is a benchmark temperature for honey. This is the maximum natural sustained temperature for honey. >> That's about what I figured. I had a lady insist on honey that had never been over 95 degrees. I told her she'd have to go to Alberta for it. The honey in a top super here in the south of the USA, can easily be 110 on a sunny summer day. My unheated/uncooled warehouse building can get hotter. Dave Green SC USA The Pollination Home Page: http://pollinator.com