John White wrote: >Dave, many thanks for your very informative survey of British 19th >century symphonists. However, you seem to have overlooked one great >musical educationist who wrote at least 4 symphonies. Namely, Ebenezer >Prout (1835-1908), also a prolific writer of textbooks on music theory, >which I frequently refer to. The English musicians from the 19th century I did not mention in my post are legion. And there are even many who were essentially non-composers who nevertheless played a major part in the re-emergence of the English national school. Names such as William Chappell (1809-1888) and Edward Dannreuther (1844-1906) spring to mind, but there are many more. I couldn't find any reference to Prout in this context in the sources I have on hand. In fact, though he seems to have written several important textbooks, his stylistic interests appear to be far more backward-looking than the composers I've mentioned in this discussion. FWIW, Watkins Shaw in the New Grove has this to say: His reputation rests on his treatises. Those on harmony, counterpoint, and double counterpoint, though remarkably thorough and independent, are based on an approach now outmoded. But his works on fugue and form (both translated into Russian), and, especially, on the orchestra (translated into German), results of intense study of a wide range of music, retain a great deal of value. It should also be noted that all of his treatises were published in the last 25 years of the 19th century, and those of continuing interest were all published in the 1890s, and therefore none of the composers I mentioned would have been exposed to Prout's writings during the time they were students. I should also clarify that my post was not meant to be an exhaustive survey of important persons of that time and place, nor even a survey of important symphony composers, but rather an overview of 19th-century British composers whose symphonies I have had a chance to hear. Though the limited descriptions of Prout's works I've been able to locate are not particularly enthusiastic, I would certainly be interested in hearing his music for myself. I also want to thank John for bringing this name to my attention. Dave [log in to unmask] http://www.classical.net/