All this recent discussion reminded me of two matters mostly applicable to those with more than a few hives: A. At an ABF meeting 3 or so years ago, one of the speakers was from a reasonably large operation in the upper Midwest that processes wax. Mostly for commercial beekeepers. I recall him saying that the trade terms were that the wax processor got to keep any honey, and "often" the weight of the honey exceeded that of the wax! He claimed that a gravity method collected less than 50% of the honey in the cappings. (At today's prices, does anyone care?) He said most "dry" cappings processed through a spinner still had about 15% honey by weight. B. While I think only Kelley still offers a wax press, cider presses are still readily available from a number of sources and I wonder if they would do the job of a wax press? Lloyd Lloyd Spear, Owner, Ross Rounds, Inc. The finest in comb honey production. www.rossrounds.com