In a message dated 7/16/0 4:12:51 AM, [log in to unmask] writes: << It is sad to me and I don't see (yet ) the health care subscriber(consumer) as active and passionate about having more choices in childbirth. What happened to that torch.? :( >> Sadly, Beadie, this *is* the consumer's idea of "choices" in childbirth, just as artificial baby milk is her idea of "choices" in childrearing. Jennifer Tow, IBCLC, CT, USA *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html