I would like to add something to the "induction" discussion, related particularly to natural human rhythms. I hope this does not seem too off the subject. In my work as both hospice nurse and LC, I have noticed so many similarities between the processes of birthing and dying. In working with dying people it is very common for a person to die early in the morning, between the hours of 2 and 4AM. Some of this has to do with physiologic factors, but some also seems due to the fact that that time is (in natural settings) quiet and free of distractions. On the inpatient hospice residence where I worked for 3 years, most deaths occurred during the night. As nurses we would often sit quietly, assuring that each person was comfortable but allowing the process to proceed in its own time. As a hospice nurse I often felt like a "reverse" midwife! It is such a sad thought that the medicalizing of birth, as well as death, robs us of important, human, experiences, some of which, I guess, we can never actually understand. Pat Sergi-Swinehart, RN, MSN, IBCLC Florida, southern USA On the topic of *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html