Mats Norrman wrote: >Then we have Susan McClary who wrote a dissertation claiming that the 4th >movement of Beethovens 9. Sinfonie describes a "non-orgamsic rape". I >can't find the books name in my brain right now, but others on the list can >tell you. McClary is not the first one to have these ideas about Beethoven >9, for a very certain reason... Two sources: "Queering the Pitch" and "Feminine Endings". The latter, in the chapter "Getting Down Off the Beanstalk," deals in part with Beethoven's 9th. The "non-orgasmic rape" phrase -- though not used by McClary here (maybe in "Queering"?) -- would best suit her description of the recapitulation found in the *first*, not fourth, movement of that symphony. Mark K. Ehlert