Perhaps, we are all looking at this incorrectly. Many of us working in CRM have plenty of knowledge and experience in dealing with "sick" people. Archaeologists should follow Dr. Gott's example and begin prescribing proven and unproven medical treatments in our writings. Eventually, the public will turn to their local archaeologist for treatment, and Dr. Gott will no longer have much of a following for his work. Maybe someone will even remind the Good Doctor to stick with writing about that in which he is trained! I suppose, I simply should be grateful that the person who originally wrote to Dr. Gott lives in New England, and thinks that digging a 50-year old privy would be interesting!!! -----Original Message----- From: Dendy, John [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 12:56 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: "privy digging" for pleasure If Vergil will provide the address, here's the pertinent content. I think anyone responding should also point out to the Dr. Gott there are Clostridium spp. living in the soil, the potential for tetanus infection, not to mention the extended survivability of anthrax and, in some cases cholera (which usually dies within 75 years). John Dendy -- DEAR DR. GOTT: I live in a part of New England that has a rich cultural heritage. People are always finding arrowheads and other artifacts. I am sort of caught up in the practice of collecting old bottles and am about to embark on what is known as "privy digging." The area that I want to explore is about 50 years old. Can I assume that any infectious agents in human waste have been degraded by now? DEAR READER: I think it's fair to say that the outhouse bacteria have long ago returned to the soil and provided nitrogen for the plant life around the site. However, you might want to use your fingers to do some math first. A 50-year-old privy is not all that old. We're talking about what people were doing in 1950. At that time, I was in high school. If the outhouse of your dreams had a holding tank, beware: bacterial counts could still be high and you should exercise caution, wash your hands after digging, and so forth. Based on my memory of circa-1950 privies, the design was a one- or two-holer over a trench to which lime was added periodically. People did not dispose of bottles in privies, so I believe that your enthusiasm about recovering significant artifacts is premature. At best, you might be able to salvage a few pages of a Sears catalogue. I suggest that you refocus your attention on the waste site for an old farm house. Here is where the real relics can be found, especially if the site is more than a century old. Old bottles, farm equipment and dinnerware are available for the taking. Before I get angry letters from privy-diggers, let me say that when you are exploring receptacles for human waste, the exuberance of discovery may last about as long as a spring snow. Although such activity may not be hazardous to health, you're probably better off going for the oldest sites you can find.