I am very disappointed with the NANN position. I don't
believe they have ever come out with a position
statement on breast feeding in general. I reviewed a
position statement for them about a year ago that
contained a lot of outdated material. I hadn't heard
from them since. NANN has had a lot of turmoil in the
past 2 years but they should put out the best info
available to their membership. Does anyone know who
drafted this position statement? NANN should be a
leader, not an anchor.
Barbara Arthur RNC,IBCLC
former NANN member
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> 1. breastfeeding v nursing
> 2. AAP cautions on juices
> 3. too evolved to breastfeed
> 4. Statement Nann on Cupfeeding
> 5. where's the milk?
> 6. recurrent plugged ducts (2)
> 7. Need FLA LC
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> 9. IUGR and subsequent effects
> 10. milk supply drop after 3- 4 months
> 11. picture for WBW
> 12. Low iron formula
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> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 07:29:39 +0100
> From: Magda Sachs <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: breastfeeding v nursing
>
> I am in total agreement with the sentiment about the
> difference, but the
> word nusing, to my ears -- the ears of someone who
> left the US at the age of
> 20 (and had two breastfed baby sisters in the 1960's
> -- one to 11 months, in
> 1967, which was fairly unusual in Texas, I think),
> nursing conjures up
> bedpans, thermometers, white dresses and
> subservience to doctors, NOT the
> kind of relationship you are describing Diane. (In
> any case 'nursing'
> described the activity nurses do, so it is
> potentially confusing.) Since
> 'nursing' is in use in the US in what I took to be a
> euphemistical type way
> for breastfeeding could I be daring and ask if there
> is another word we
> could start to use?
>
> I asked my husband if there was a way to find out
> what the anglo-saxon for
> it was -- he says that the number of anglo saxon
> texts extant is fairly
> small and it might not be mentioned and he knows
> only of an English -
> anglo-saxon dictionary, not the reverse. [I thought
> of this, because of Gay
> Palmer's discussion of the anglo-saxon meaning of
> weaning.] In German they
> have 'stillen' = to soothe. How does the Norwegian
> translate, Rachel -- or
> , does anyone know another way to describe? I don't
> think we could 'sell'
> nursing here in the UK (and you must notice I find
> the connotations above
> very negative, no offense to any nurses).
>
> Magda Sachs
> Breastfeeding Supporter, BfN, UK
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:59:56 +1000
> From: Virginia G Thorley
> <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: AAP cautions on juices
>
> As I'm nomail at the moment, I'm not sure if the URL
> for the AAP's =
> recent statement cautioning on juices. It appeared
> in Pediatrics 2001 =
> (May);107(5):1210-13. The URL is:
> http://aap.org/policy/re0047.html
> This is a useful document to have on hand to
> show colleagues or =
> families who still believe in pushing juices for
> infants under 6 months, =
> or to give a client to show a health care provider
> who is pressuring her =
> to give juices inappropriately. It received good
> press coverage here in =
> Brisbane.
> Cheers,
> Virginia
> still nomail, in Brisbane
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 10:10:21 +0200
> From: Jean Ridler <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: too evolved to breastfeed
>
> Rachel wrote:
> > women here who fret the most and are least able to
> be at ease
> > with BF are those who want to know exactly how
> many mls the baby is
> getting,
> > and then desire some sort of guarantee that the
> baby will make no further
> > demands on them for some set interval, for example
> 3 or 4 hours.
> > These women are often poorly educated though
> employed for pay, usually in
> > lower level jobs in the health care system, i.e.
> nurses' aides, or aides
> in
> > day cares. They are used to a task-oriented
> focus, NOT a process-oriented
> > one. I see this seldom in women with university
> or college degrees and
> > higher powered careers.
>
> This is so interesting. Maybe it's got something to
> do with living in a
> breastfeeding supportive culture? The opposite
> seems to apply here. More
> educated women do tend to breastfeed, but have such
> a hard time trying to
> *regulate* their babies' needs for eating and
> sleeping.
>
> Jean Ridler RN RM IBCLC Cape Town
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 09:51:02 +0200
> From: Elien Rouw <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Statement Nann on Cupfeeding
>
> With this statement on cupfeeding perhaps it would
> be wise to also contact
> Sandra Lang. She is a midwive in Great-Britain and
> has lots of experience
> with cup-feeding. She also knows the ins and outs of
> literature about this
> topic. I often was with her and was impressed by her
> knowledge of feeding,
> the differences between different types of feeding
> (breast, cup, bottle,
> finger), and I think, she knows, what she is talking
> about.
> In my experience, especcially with premies, it is
> important to use all the
> posibilities to make them feed. In my opinion it
> makes no sense to skip one
> of the most important and simple methods to feed a
> premie. In the hospitals
> I come (some on their way to babyfriendly), the
> nurses and midwives mostly
> are very impressed by this feeding-method, once they
> have seen and
> understand it. But training here is very important.
> When they only read
> about it, they have strong prejudices against it,
> and can't imagine, that it
> functions well. You have to see it to believe it!
> Many greetings from the Black Forrest.
> Elien Rouw, MD, Arbeitsgemeinschaft Freier
> Stillgruppen (a
> lay-counsellorgroup in Germany)
> Bühl, Germany
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 09:55:58 +0200
> From: Rachel Myr <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: where's the milk?
>
> Re: Debi's response, on massive oversupply followed
> by undersupply
>
>
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