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> Topics in this special issue:
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>   1. worrying over the wrong thing/NEC
>   2. Article:  DHA Supplementation
>   3. breastmilk vs progestomil and rice cereal
>   4. older adoptive breastfeeding
>   5. DHA supplementation of breastfeeding mothers
>   6. Parenting education/buckets
>   7. Chicago OB
>   8. Jaundice in the News
>   9. funny baby picture
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>  11. have a question
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> Date:    Fri, 4 May 2001 00:36:33 EDT
> From:    Jennifer Tow <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: worrying over the wrong thing/NEC
>
> In a message dated 5/1/1 4:05:27 PM,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
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> << <In my opinion, again, women are too concerned
> with "alienating" and not
> enough concerned with insisting on evidence based
> SAFE practice. I would
> not be concerned about alienation. I would be
> consulting my
> attorney.  Maybe alienation is the beginning of safe
> practice for this
> hospital. >>
>
> I do agree with this comment, but in reality, they
> have your baby! A NICU or
> PICU can bring the strongest mother to her knees. I
> have seen mothers
> "guided" into the decisions the staff prefers they
> make and I have seen
> others overtly threatened by staff who think
> decisions really are up to them
> and not the parents. So many moms express anger
> about this while their babies
> are in hospital, but seem to lose their motivation
> to act upon it once the
> babies are home. So many things come into play--the
> need to put the
> experience behind them, the need to believe they
> really were in  control, the
> need to believe they could not have allowed anything
> wrong to happen, the
> need for follow-up care, the need to rationalize
> away upsetting feelings, the
> are feeling of gratitude for those who saved your
> baby (sometimes quite
> justified) and on and on.
>     I try very hard to convince moms to let
> hospitals know about their
> experiences-bad and good, but most say they will and
> never do. I have mixed
> feelings about this--parents do need to be stronger
> in advocating for their
> children, but they are in an alien world where the
> message of who is in
> control is very clear from the start. In my
> experience, parents who question
> procedures and "decisions" are not treated in a very
> welcome manner by many
> staff.
>     I am not speaking from conjecture. I sat in many
> meetings in a large NICU
> where the key word was "compliance". "Compliant"
> parents were clearly the
> "good" ones.  I also personally experienced having a
> young child in the PICU.
> The nurses were so wonderful, but there were huge
> issues with the doctors b/c
> my dh and I approach our family's health care in a
> holistic way and we
> insisted upon giving our approval after full
> understanding for anything which
> was not an emergency, life-saving procedure and b/c
> we refused to leave our
> child overnight. I always think about this when I
> counsel moms w/ sick
> babies--we successfully advocated for our child (in
> part b/c the nurses
> supported us), but I worked in that hospital and
> knew my way around; most
> moms are coming from a position of much greater
> disadvantage. They need a lot
> of loving support in finding their voices in such an
> environment of control
> and fear. I certainly realize not every NICU is the
> same, and certainly not
> all practitioners are the same, but even in a NICU
> which is far more
> supportive of parents, fear is still inherent in the
> reality of the
> situation.
> Jennifer Tow, IBCLC, CT, USA
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Fri, 4 May 2001 05:23:52 EDT
> From:    "Valerie W. McClain, IBCLC"
> <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Article:  DHA Supplementation
>
> I think we have to be very careful about accepting
> press releases from a
> corporation about the benefits of its products.  Has
> anyone read this study?
> Has it been published?
>
> This particular company has much to gain, if
> everyone accepts that
> supplementation of breastfeeding mothers is a
> necessity.  Not only will they
> have the infant formula market (they provide the DHA
> and AA for formula made
> in Europe and Asia) but they will have the
> breastfeeding market, too.
> Actually they win what ever way it goes.  If women
> believe that their
> breastmilk is not good enough, then they'll buy
> infant formula that provides
> that ingredient that they are lacking.  Or if they
> breastfeed, they will buy
> the supplements because we all just know that
> breastmilk could not be good
> enough.  Only the addition of a man-made product
> will make it good enough.
> Yes, that's sarcasm.
>
> If you believe Baylor College of Medicine (where the
> study was done) is a
> bastion of unbiased studies, you may have to rethink
> that idea.  The infant
> formula industry has heavy investments in that
> college.  Some researchers at
> Baylor have patents on human milk components and the
> human lactoferrin
> industry is partnered with Baylor-Agennix.
>
> I believe Martek is just developing a market for its
> products--genetically
> engineered (they have 13 patents in the US patent
> office on their oils and
> the patents are about genetically engineering the
> oils).   Should we readily
> accept the thought that breastmilk is not good
> enough by a corporation that
> will make a profit on that belief?  I think
> not....Valerie W. McClain, IBCLC
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Fri, 4 May 2001 06:31:02 -0400
> From:    Patrica Young <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: breastmilk vs progestomil and rice
> cereal
>
> Dear Denise, I know I am horribly prejudiced re:
> properties/value of
> breastmilk, but this makes no common sense to me!
> Personally my gut &
> brain tell me it is sheer ignorance on somebody's
> part.  I think mom's
> instincts to BF are right, but she needs back-up to
> do this.
> I hope an MD on list will answer  for all our
> enlightenment.  Maybe you can
> contact Maryelle Vonlanthem, Gastroenterologist who
> has
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