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Isabella

Thanks for the good description.  The red flags for me in this would be

1) static weight from 4 - 14 days (suggest increase frequency of BF 
episodes, and perhaps use breast compression/switch-nursing to 
increase intake, or have mom feed some of that EBM that she pumps 
after feeding - not sure why she's doing this??)
2) nipple distortion and pain, pinched nipples and L nipple 
elevations when baby comes off.  Sounds like the baby is placed too 
high on the nipple/areola, ie baby doesn't have enough of the 
underside of the areola in the mouth.  This can result in a 
lipstick-shaped nipple, which can be seen briefly when the baby 
unlatches. I'd suggest thoroughly reviewing latching techniques with 
this mom, and using the technique whereby thumb is placed above the 
areola to depress the tissue on latching, so that the nipple tips up, 
and more of the underneath of the areola is planted on the baby's 
tongue as she gapes to latch.   As soon as the baby is latched, mom 
should let go the thumb to relax the breast tissue, allowing the 
nipple tip to go further into the baby's mouth, but she should keep 
supporting/cupping the whole breast from underneath throughout the 
feed so that the breast is effectively being "poured" into the baby's 
mouth.  This takes the weight of the breast off the baby's lower jaw, 
and allows more of the nipple/areola tissue to remain inside the 
baby's mouth during nursing, rather than gravity pulling it back out 
again.   It can help sore nipples to vary the positioning too - if 
she can only nurse in the football, can you perhaps show her how to 
nurse in cross-cradle (lots of pillows to support baby, mom's arms 
etc) so that the area of friction on the nipple is varied?

Hope these ideas help.  These are what I would try before rushing to 
conclude that the problem is "only" TT, and that a quick snip will 
fix everything!

Pamela Morrison IBCLC
Rustington, England
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:59:59 -0500
From: Isabella Mendoza <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: May be missing something / distorted nipples

Please let me run the basics past you-all and see what I might be 
missing. Permission to Post: Mother is bfdg her 2week old girl, 
second time breastfeeding. Hospital birth, but completely natural 
with no meds. Baby weighed 7/15 at birth, and 8/2, 4 days later. She 
was complaining about nipple pain from the very beginning, her 
nipples both looked a bit pinched. [She has a brother with a minor 
tongue tie, which was never fixed. She breastfed him for 11 mo]. The 
2wk old does have enough soiled and wet diapers. The Pedi says the 
bili is still a ittle high (13 I think) and wants mom to bring baby 
for weight checks frequently because the weight gain has leveled off. 
It was still 8/2 on Friday, which was at 2 wks.

She states one side (L) especially is distorted in a strange way: 
where the edges of the nipple core are sort of elevated when baby 
comes off. I have seen this before, but I don't remember 
understanding the cause. She says pain is a "little" better than it 
was two weeks ago but it still hurts. She saw the Pedi dentist with 
this baby at about 1 wk and dentist said no TT. Pedi Dentist said 
problem is "strong suction".

I checked positioning, baby's "wide open gape", stool & urine count 
(good), milk is easy to express by hand. Mom is able to feed for 
about 30 minutes in football only and she can still pump +- 2 oz 
after the feeding. (She wants to do that, not my idea).

What am I missing??? Help!
Isabella
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