On Saturday, January 3, 2015, Annie VerSteeg <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>
> On Saturday, January 3, 2015, LACTNET automatic digest system <
>>
>>
>> I am working with a mother who is third day postpartum. Spontaneous
>> vaginal delivery. Healthy full-term infant 6lb8oz. No obvious oral
>> pathologies.Vigorous digital suck. The infant is mildly jaundiced. Mother
>> attempts breastfeediing around the clock but the baby just won't latch on.
>> I am stumped. Any suggestions?
>>
>> Mary Jo PeterS
>
>
>  i would put a nipple shield over the finger baby does suck on and then
> put the shield over the nipple and squirt a bit of expressedc milk on the
> shield. The vigorous digital suck is now what the baby DOES recognize as a
> food source. It's pretty easy to transition from shield to bare breast.
> Annie VerSteeg IBCLC
>
>>
>>              ***********************************************
>>
>> Archives: http://community.lsoft.com/archives/LACTNET.html
>> To reach list owners: [log in to unmask]
>> Mail all list management commands to: [log in to unmask]
>> COMMANDS:
>> 1. To temporarily stop your subscription write in the body of an email:
>> set lactnet nomail
>> 2. To start it again: set lactnet mail
>> 3. To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet
>> 4. To get a comprehensive list of rules and directions: get lactnet
>
>
>
>> Date:    Sat, 3 Jan 2015 19:30:41 -0700
>> From:    Darillyn Starr <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Dental caries in toddlers
>>
>> Just a few observations.  I don't claim to know about all of the possible
>> issues connected to this, but I've seen how one variable, genetics, can
>> make the biggest difference of all in whether a toddler gets cavities.  My
>> ex's sister's husband had full dentures at 19 and his entire family had
>> lost their teeth by age 30.  Some of their children had terrible teeth,
>> despite a great deal of diligence with brushing, as well as very good diets.
>>
>> My third adopted child had "nursing bottle mouth", too.  I nursed
>> him,supplementing with the Lact-Aid, for a little more than a year, and
>> then without it for three more years.  My milk supply was always on the
>> smaller side and he never stayed asleep with my nipple in his mouth, so I'm
>> positive that his teeth were never bathed in milk while he was asleep.  I
>> also cleaned his teeth with gauze laparotomy sponges, leftover from
>> surgery, from the time they came in, in addition to brushing, when he got a
>> bit older.  I practiced essentially the same oral hygiene and early feeding
>> with all six of my adopted children (none of whom had any biological
>> relation to another), but the front baby teeth of the other five all fell
>> out in perfect condition.  Not only have my third son's teeth been
>> terrible, throughout his life, but his two children also have bad teeth. I
>> had always figured is was genetic. A few years back, we reunited with his
>> lovely young birth mom, and she confirmed that unusually weak tooth enamel
>> runs in her family.
>>
>> If a child is born with weak tooth enamel, I doubt that weaning will
>> change it.  It would certainly be a shame to deprive mother and baby of the
>> benefits of toddler nursing, for nothing.  The mom might want to try
>> something like cleaning her baby's teeth with gauze after every nursing.  I
>> felt like I could get the teeth cleaner with the gauze, than with a
>> toothbrush. Also, if there is a dentist who is willing to try to save the
>> child's teeth, that would be worth pursuing.  My grandbabies have both had
>> their front teeth capped, ( under heavy sedation), and that has kept them
>> from getting worse, until they were ready to fall out.
>>
>
> BOTH of my kids were born with a genetic disorder called DENTIN OGENESIS
> IMPERFECTA. The teeth come in ok but the enamel sloughs of within days,
> weeks or months. Adult teeth are the same. We spent 18 years preserving
> what we could with caps, veneers etc. Once the kid's teeth were fully
> erupted they both had full mouth restorations. 28 teeth each.
> This is a genetic disorder. Their father, paternal aunt anf grandmother
> all have it. Of 5 grandkids, 4 have had full mouth restorations.
> My advice, remember that genetic disorders are covered by medical
> insurance. It is an expensive journey!
> Dental caries are very present in TOT babies, this is very different and
> has nothing to do with Breastmilk, formula or brushing. It's like a clubbed
> foot, if you have it, you have it forever.
> Annie VerSteeg IBCLC
>
>>              ***********************************************
>>
>

             ***********************************************

Archives: http://community.lsoft.com/archives/LACTNET.html
To reach list owners: [log in to unmask]
Mail all list management commands to: [log in to unmask]
COMMANDS:
1. To temporarily stop your subscription write in the body of an email: set lactnet nomail
2. To start it again: set lactnet mail
3. To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet
4. To get a comprehensive list of rules and directions: get lactnet welcome