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Really? Is it illegal?  I never heard that before. It's a bad idea for all kinds if reasons but I never heard that it is illegal.  


Eric Siegel
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On Dec 5, 2012, at 9:22 PM, Christine Keefe <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> ISEN-ASTC-L is a service of the Association of Science-Technology Centers
> Incorporated, a worldwide network of science museums and related institutions.
> *****************************************************************************
> 
> It is also illegal for a grant writer to charge a percentage of what is awarded, fyi.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone; please forgive brevity and/or typos!
> 
> On Dec 5, 2012, at 4:46 PM, Kit Klein <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
>> ISEN-ASTC-L is a service of the Association of Science-Technology Centers
>> Incorporated, a worldwide network of science museums and related institutions.
>> *****************************************************************************
>> 
>> Hi Ben,
>> I'm a Certified Grant Writer (TM) through the American Grant Writers
>> Association (AGWA.us) and specialize NSF grant proposals for ASTC folks.
>> Most grant writers charge $75-$150 or more per hour for federal grants.
>> Some charge by the project, but most I've seen tend to charge by the hour
>> (generally $90-$150/hr) with an upper limit based on the project and your
>> needs.  Most projects I've taken on have ranged from 30-60 hours, with 60
>> only when the institution has very limited time to help and hasn't done
>> much pre-planning (these rarely get funded).
>> 
>> A common question is do grant writers get paid only if you get the grant
>> funded.  The answer is no.  Grant writers are bound by ethical standards
>> that prohibit that.  Grant writers get paid for the professional work.
>> There are too many variables that go into a proposal (quality of the
>> project planning, fit to the RFP, etc) and the funding agency's needs
>> (availability of funds, grant portfolio, etc) that are beyond the control
>> of the grant writer.
>> 
>> If you are looking for grant writers, check out AGWA.us or the Grant
>> Professionals Association (grantprofessionals.org).  Both can point you to
>> grant writers that specialize in your area of need.  Both have a
>> certification process, so consider using someone certified or someone with
>> good references.  There are too many scams out there.
>> 
>> Good luck!
>> Kit
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Christine (Kit) Klein, Ph.D.
>> Principal
>> Klein Consulting
>> 314-504-1465 mobile
>> 314-909-1224 fax
>> www.ckleinconsulting.com
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Benjamin Dickow
>> <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>> 
>>> ISEN-ASTC-L is a service of the Association of Science-Technology Centers
>>> Incorporated, a worldwide network of science museums and related
>>> institutions.
>>> 
>>> *****************************************************************************
>>> 
>>> hi,
>>> 
>>> Several people (too many for comfort) have been asking me this question in
>>> the past few days as the NSF-AISL (ISE) proposal deadline looms:
>>> 
>>> What's the going rate for a grant writer to shepherd a NSF grant?
>>> 
>>> Many people with terror in their eyes and the prospect of a holiday season
>>> spent tied to their computers will be grateful for the answer.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ben
>>> 
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