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Eric's right, the cave system was/is used primarily for high end  
visualization; i was just suggesting that if you want to project on  
all surfaces, you wouldn't have to use steroscopic vr, but its a good  
place to look for the technology to integrate multiple surface  
display...in 5 minutes of googling i haven't found the inital  
reference i remember, but have found several papers on low cost  
solutions using open source software.....nor do they have to be  
millions of dollars.
	


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> Well, basically, you have three choices, rear projected, front  
> projected, or monitor.  You can probably imagine the advantages or  
> disadvantages of the projected images.  Unless you have really  
> large images or irregularly shaped screens in mind, I would  
> recommend considering large monitors.  It makes everything so much  
> easier.  A 42" monitor and a small computer can be gotten for under  
> 2K for each monitor/computer set.  If you are going up to 50", then  
> you can get the whole setup for well under 4K.  You don't have all  
> the logistical hassles of where to mount projectors, the image is  
> going to be a zillion times brighter (unless you go for some really  
> monstrous projection system).   There are systems for tiling  
> monitors that I don't know much about, but they are very expensive.
>
> I see you want to project on the floors also, so you could do a  
> hybrid of monitors and projection.
>
> The CAVE systems are all about interactivity and 3-d ness, and that  
> is a whole other set of issues, and I don't think that they can  
> fairly be called "poor man's" approaches, since most of them are  
> like millions of dollars.  I don't know about the Carnegie Mellon  
> version, any more pointers on that?
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> On Mar 6, 2008, at 12:39 PM, Jeff Courtman wrote:
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>> John, there is a low(er) tech, poor man's approach called a cave  
>> projection system...i remember coming across it a couple of years  
>> ago...do a google search for cave virtual reality  or cave vr  
>> projection...
>>
>> my recollection is that the person who had developed a simplified  
>> version was at carnegie mellon?
>>
>> let us know if you find some good links!
>>
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>> On Mar 6, 2008, at 10:00 AM, John Bibby wrote:
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>>> I'd welcome advice on how best to do the following:
>>>
>>> In an enclosed space, I want to have videos on lots of different  
>>> 'screens'
>>> (incl. walls/ceilings/floors etc.) all around the space.
>>>
>>> What do I need in terms of hardware/software/anything else?
>>>
>>> Who has experience of this? (There is something like this in the  
>>> War Museum
>>> in Manchester - but our budget is probably less than 1% of what  
>>> theirs was!)
>>>
>>> Thanks to anyone with information - if you'd like me to call you  
>>> to discuss,
>>> please let me have your phone number and an indication of good/ 
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