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Clifford and co.;
As an alternative, what about bm and am (watch it...): that's before mechanical, and after mechanical.
At some point, more power was liberated by machines than by animal power...why not start it up there?
Because at some point in the future (hopefully) our descendents will look back on this 200 or so year long frame in time as the Carbon-burning age.
Here's another one sure to spark some commentary: Before and after (c'mon, you knew someone would throw it out here: Darwin! (That's BD and AD)

Ken Brandt
>   I just thought of a good candidate for a reference date that is pretty  
> close to now that has major implications for our age:
> 
> BOWP and AOWP
> 
> You ready?   Before Oil Was Precious  and After Oil Was Precious
> 
> Problem is, it doesn't have an exact date.
> 
> Can we declare one?  How about today?
> 
> Clifford Wagner
> > David L Smith
> > Director of Professional Development
> > Da Vinci DiscoveryCenter of Science and Technology
> > http://www.discovery-center.org
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Informal Science Education Network
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Creel, Wesley
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 10:48 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Science, religion, BC, and AD
> >
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> > Good Morning All,
> > All seriousness aside.....why don't we just say, "2,000 years ago,"
> > (instead of 5 A.D or 5 C.E.) or "15,000 years ago?" (instead of 12,995
> > B.C or 12,995 B.C.E)?  Uhhhh.....am I adding/subtracting this stuff
> > right? Wesley
> >
> > Wesley S. Creel
> > Administrator of Programs
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> > -----Original Message-----
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> > Subject: Science, religion, BC, and AD
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> > While we are all busy discussing science and religion, may I offer a
> > request for all those of you who use dates in the historical era on  
> > your
> > center signage to use the CE, BCE (Common Era, Before the Common Era)
> > nomenclature instead of AD and BC.  Both of the latter refer explicity
> > to Christ, and AD refers explicitly to Christ's divinity, making CE/BCE
> > a more inclusive usage.  The years are counted identically, this is  
> > 2005
> > CE, so there's no issue of conversion, just a change in initials.  For
> > more see the wikipedia entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Era.
> >
> >
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