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Stephen - I second Charlie's opinion - well said!

Although I do not have any evidence, I wonder if the structural  
deficit arises, at least in part, from the overwhelming daily exposure  
to applied science versus scientific inquiry.  In medicine, for  
instance, the clinical value of a drug in

On Apr 13, 2012, at 9:23 AM, Charlie Carlson wrote:

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> Stephen,
> I think you stated it wonderfully.
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> On Apr 13, 2012, at 6:24 AM, Stephen Uzzo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>> Ben -
>> To your point. I think the problem is a structural one and to some  
>> degree we have brought it on ourselves by permitting the public to  
>> maintain their misconception about what science really is. It is  
>> presented in schools as dogma, rather than a process for asking and  
>> answering questions about nature, and as a result we have what  
>> we've got. Unfortunately, the Common Core frameworks, soon to be  
>> standards are not much better than what we have either. Until we  
>> really dig into the essence of what science does, and find ways to  
>> stimulate the scientific habits of mind among our populace, myth  
>> and science will not be easily differentiated; since we have not  
>> taught people how to question their understanding and seek  
>> evidence, or even recognize it when they see it. As far as I am  
>> concerned, none of the content of science will matter if the  
>> process of science is fuzzy. As sinister as it is to see science  
>> corrupted for nefarious purposes, I don't think just saying my  
>> dogma is better than your dogma is going to get us where we want to  
>> be.
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>> On Apr 12, 2012, at 6:06 PM, Challenger wrote:
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>>> Martin, I would agree that it's sad that utility is trumping  
>>> education and curiosity. Very sad.
>>>
>>> I think we need to be careful here with what we say though. Why  
>>> shouldn't we be able to question scientific ideas? Tennessee's  
>>> main fault here is that it's only questioning evolution and  
>>> nothing else, which we all would agree is totally inconsistent and  
>>> missing the point. We should allow each generation to question  
>>> everything (and feel free and safe to do so). I'm not the only  
>>> person who has said this.
>>>
>>> Claude Lévi-Strauss, widely regarded as the father of modern  
>>> anthropology, articulated the same idea in 1964 in the first  
>>> volume of his iconic Mythologiques collection of cultural  
>>> anthropology: "The scientist is not a person who gives the right  
>>> answers, he's one who asks the right questions."
>>>
>>> In 1966, Richard Feynman addressing the National Science Teachers  
>>> Association said: " Science alone of all the subjects contains  
>>> within itself the lesson of the danger of belief in the  
>>> infallibility of the greatest teachers of the preceding generation."
>>>
>>> Erich, you may have "lost every argument you've had with gravity"  
>>> yet that didn't stop NASA from questioning Einstein's theories  
>>> regarding gravity and subsequently launching the Gravity B Probe...
>>>
>>> While the government shouldn't be questioning these things for  
>>> students, I do think the students should be free to question these  
>>> things (read: everything) for themselves.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ben Moon
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>>> McWane Science Center
>>> 200  19th Street North
>>> Birmingham, AL 35203
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