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Yes this piece was about growth and I believe it was a radio piece on NPR.  However the article I posted noted tha among the big ten economies only one was a world beater in Pisa scores, Japan.  I will dig more for the growth and stem education scores.  

Interestingly I did find a research paper that strongly correlates the improvement of scores in the top 5 percent is very strongly correlated with economic growth. This suggests that the elite students have a disproportionately strong effecting w economic growth. 


Eric Siegel
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On Mar 22, 2013, at 9:48 PM, Alan Friedman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

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> Eric Siegel wrote:  "I heard recently that there is a reverse correlation
> between rates of economic growth in the past 20 years and success on
> international standardized testing.  I haven't been able to find the
> article, but here is one that makes a similar point, that none of the
> largest economies, other than Japan's is at the top of the PISA charts."
> 
> Eric, I don't now where you heard about that reverse (i.e., negative)
> correlation, but I can cite a major PISA publication which says quite the
> opposite, that economic growth per capita is strongly and positively
> correlated with success on PISA standards-based tests.  Andreas
> Schleicher, Head of indicators and Analysis (which includes PISA) for the
> Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development said in a talk in
> Paris on April 5, 2010, that "Quality of education is good predictor of
> GDP growth per capita."  He illustrated his talk with many charts
> comparing PISA scores with GDP growth per capita across OECD countries.
> Here is a link to the published charts, data, and citations:
> www.oecd.org/pisa/pisaproducts/pisa2006/44417824.pdf.
> 
> Your citation doesn't disagree with this conclusion at all.  Rather,
> Michael C. Russell is talking only about the SIZES of national economies,
> and isn't looking at economic GROWTH RATES.  Is the interesting
> correlation with education the size of an economy, or are we interested in
> the correlation between education and the growth of an economy, be it
> large or small?  I can think of a lot of reasons to go with growth, rather
> than absolute size or size per capita, as the potential outcome of good
> education.
> 
> Cheers,
> Alan
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