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I think the key is remembering there are separate satisfactions afforded by science and religion. "Debate" is fruitless because people are talking past each other- you might as well be trying to convince someone who wants a chocolate sundae to shovel snow instead. The assumptions, premises and understandings are all different. Science should happen in science centres and anti-science should happen in church. Trying to make them happen at the same time in the same place will only result in the annihilation of good feelings in a flash of heat, not light. 

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From: Informal Science Education Network [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Charlie Carlson
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Subject: Re: museum responses to the Evolution/Creationist debate

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And we have PZ Meyers and you have Richard Dawkins, with whom I agree philosophically, and admire, But I agree with you about the damage they do.  And that takes me to my earlier statement--people need to understand and see the benefits of evolution, wonders of scientific discovery, and wondrous story life and universe.  It's about seeing, feeling, and understanding evidence.  But I'll guarantee you that's not why they are arguing with you.

Charlie
On Nov 19, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Ian Russell wrote:

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> Google threw up this compendium of opinion polls.
> http://www.religioustolerance.org/ev_publi.htm I know nothing about 
> the organisation that assembled it.
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> However, it suggests we need to be more precise with our targeting 
> when throwing those tomatoes. If half the population has been 
> persuaded by a small number of activists to reject evolutionary 
> science, isn't that rather a large 'flock of dodos'?
>
> It seems to me that 'non-combatants' are already being alienated by 
> collateral damage. Is indescriminate bombing of religion the best way 
> to run a hearts-and-minds campaign for science?
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> Promoting public engagement with science through a contagious delight 
> in phenomena
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> [log in to unmask] * http://www.interactives.co.uk
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> Give people facts and you feed their minds for an hour.
> Awaken curiosity and they feed their own minds for a lifetime.
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> Ian Russell   (Twitter: ianrusselluk)
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