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Three good but not top of the line nVidia cards (the 8600 GT) in a  
$2000 box would give you the possibility for six screens, and a lot of  
software, including Director (not sure about the newest Flash),  
Processing, Jitter, and I think VVVV would let you send an application  
across all of them. That said, the nVidia control software would  
theoretically handle it if your content is composed to go across all  
of those monitors.

What's the content being pushed onto the screens? Is it all passive-  
can you make a giant rendered movie file to play in the space, or it  
is interactive content?




On Mar 6, 2008, at 1:13 PM, Jeff Courtman wrote:

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> Eric's right, the cave system was/is used primarily for high end  
> visualization; i was just suggesting that if you want to project on  
> all surfaces, you wouldn't have to use steroscopic vr, but its a  
> good place to look for the technology to integrate multiple surface  
> display...in 5 minutes of googling i haven't found the inital  
> reference i remember, but have found several papers on low cost  
> solutions using open source software.....nor do they have to be  
> millions of dollars.
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> On Mar 6, 2008, at 11:53 AM, Eric Siegel wrote:
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>> Well, basically, you have three choices, rear projected, front  
>> projected, or monitor.  You can probably imagine the advantages or  
>> disadvantages of the projected images.  Unless you have really  
>> large images or irregularly shaped screens in mind, I would  
>> recommend considering large monitors.  It makes everything so much  
>> easier.  A 42" monitor and a small computer can be gotten for under  
>> 2K for each monitor/computer set.  If you are going up to 50", then  
>> you can get the whole setup for well under 4K.  You don't have all  
>> the logistical hassles of where to mount projectors, the image is  
>> going to be a zillion times brighter (unless you go for some really  
>> monstrous projection system).   There are systems for tiling  
>> monitors that I don't know much about, but they are very expensive.
>>
>> I see you want to project on the floors also, so you could do a  
>> hybrid of monitors and projection.
>>
>> The CAVE systems are all about interactivity and 3-d ness, and that  
>> is a whole other set of issues, and I don't think that they can  
>> fairly be called "poor man's" approaches, since most of them are  
>> like millions of dollars.  I don't know about the Carnegie Mellon  
>> version, any more pointers on that?
>>
>>
>> Eric Siegel
>> Director and
>> Chief Content Officer
>> New York Hall of Science
>> www.nyscience.org
>> (718) 699-0005 x 317
>> esiegel at nyscience dot org
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>>
>> On Mar 6, 2008, at 12:39 PM, Jeff Courtman wrote:
>>
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>>> John, there is a low(er) tech, poor man's approach called a cave  
>>> projection system...i remember coming across it a couple of years  
>>> ago...do a google search for cave virtual reality  or cave vr  
>>> projection...
>>>
>>> my recollection is that the person who had developed a simplified  
>>> version was at carnegie mellon?
>>>
>>> let us know if you find some good links!
>>>
>>>
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>>> On Mar 6, 2008, at 10:00 AM, John Bibby wrote:
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>>>> I'd welcome advice on how best to do the following:
>>>>
>>>> In an enclosed space, I want to have videos on lots of different  
>>>> 'screens'
>>>> (incl. walls/ceilings/floors etc.) all around the space.
>>>>
>>>> What do I need in terms of hardware/software/anything else?
>>>>
>>>> Who has experience of this? (There is something like this in the  
>>>> War Museum
>>>> in Manchester - but our budget is probably less than 1% of what  
>>>> theirs was!)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to anyone with information - if you'd like me to call you  
>>>> to discuss,
>>>> please let me have your phone number and an indication of good/ 
>>>> bad times to
>>>> call.
>>>>
>>>> JOHN BIBBY  aa42/MatheMagic
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