[log in to unmask] writes:

>This comment cropped up from time to time in the 1880-1960 time frame,
>at this point it is a historical curiousity.  The source for it seems to
>lie with Beethoven's assymetrical melodic structures, and in his use of
>melodies which do not readily suggest a modulation.

I don`t discard it has a mere curiosity, many intelligent things have been
said in the past.  But this is not the point, the point being, I am not
quite sure, like many composers, that Beethoven thought so much about
structure while composing.  And if it does not come out naturally, it is
not a force he is endowed with.

Nicolas