Deryk Barker:

>Would you really consider Beethoven 9 cyclic? The themes from mvt 1-3 do
>reappear (briefly) at the beginning the finale, but only to be swept away
>and never referred to again.

I expected this question.  He's linking the movements, but very briefly.
Berlioz did something similar in Harold in Italy.

I'm not sure, Deryk.  But if you have'nt hard the earlier movements, the
last one doesn't make sense.  Could that be a pragmatic definition of
cyclic?

Mikael
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