Kevin Sutton wrote:

>Karl Miller wonders:
>
>>I would be curious to know what works are amongst those clunkers.  I am
>>not disagreeing with the perspective that Beethoven might have written
>>his share of clunkers, just wondered what works people might think would
>>fall into that group.
>
>Wellington's Victory.
>Christ on the Mount of Olives
>And to risk heresy, The Missa Solemnis, which I find utterly unlistenable.
>The Grosse Fugue, another piece that should be assigned to a file labeled
>"failed experiments."

Are you saying they are not well written, or that they might not be
particularly substantive?

And speaking of less than stellar pieces...and speaking of Tchaikovsky...
and speaking of Wellington's Victory...we have, what is possibly
Tchaikovsky's most often performed work, the 1812 Overture!

Karl