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Mats Norrman <[log in to unmask]>
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Michael Cooper <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>While this has been a highly entertaining thread to follow, if memory
>serves correctly the query made in the original post has been all but
>ignored, since the question was specifically about *homosexuality* in
>music.

The original poster asked for sex in music and homosexuality too.

>There is a suggestion of homosexuality in the Erlkonig, in the seduction
>of the little boy...

I wonder where you got that from.  Of course interpretations are all ones
own, which we prefer, but I lend more towards an interpretation thats says
that the persons in "Erlkoenig" are just symbols, and it has nothing with
homosexuality to do.  But perhaps you allude to the talk that Schubert also
was gay, and he dreamt about seducing small boys?

>Homosexuality was a crime punishable by death in czarist Russia...

Thats not true!  At worst they were sent to camps in Siberia.  But of
course it was possible to die from that.

>...there is speculation Tchaikosky intentionally contracted cholera by
>drinking unboiled water, knowing that his orientation was dangerously
>close to becoming public knowledge.

I have heard that Tjajkovskij had a sexual relationship with the son
of a top-politician in the state.  He was called to a meeting with some
men of importance and they gave him an ultimatum.  Either they would tell
everything about it, with scandal as result and deportation top Siberia for
Pjotr Ijitj, or else he should walk into the other room and drink the glass
of cholera water thjat stood there.  In another version he visited his
sisters son and showed signs of not feeling very well, and there have drunk
the unboiled water in question.  Are there more versions?

>For my contribution to what this thread has been, there is of course
>Bolero...  13 or so minutes of rhythmic repetition, a brief climax, and
>collapse.  (Ravel must not been the most exciting paramour.)

Isn't there a film where the guy plays his CD with Bolero and the lady
says: "No, must we do it to Bolero *again*?!"

Mats Norrman
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