Karl Miller wrote:

>Alastair Scott wrote:
>
>
>> Of course, not all the works are masterpieces, and Beethoven wrote
>> quite
>> a few clunkers - but this is a remarkable idea!
>>
>
>I would be curious to know what works are amongst those clunkers.  I
>am not disagreeing with the perspective that Beethoven might have written
>his share of clunkers, just wondered what works people might think would
>fall into that group.

Certainly the Scottish and Irish songs (from memory, opus 108); the whole
approach is completely inappropriate for the material it is based on!

(I once heard Fischer-Dieskau sing them and realised that not even a
great artist could rescue fundamentally misconceived music).

Alastair