Mats Norrman asks:

>I don't think a piece like Pendereckis "Threnody" is a beautiful piece, and
>I never did.  It has a sound that is so ugly as music can ever be, to me.
>Fairly the same goes for 12-tone music by Schoenberg and his likes.  Still
>there are people who swear that this music is "beautiful".

Are they perhaps using "beautiful" and "moving" synonymously?

len.