William Strother said

>And just to muddy the water further, Tchaikovsky also set Schiller's Ode
>to Joy to orchestra & chorus.

I've never heard of this - do you know of any recording? I should imagine
there's a Melodiya one, as the communists recorded most Russian works, it
seems!

>Or, as with Beethoven, parts of the text.  But I think the parts were
>different from Beethoven's.

It would be extremely audacious to try and improve upon the work of
Beethoven given the reverence he was apparently held in during the
Romantic era!

Meanwhile, Ray Bayles said:

>Mozart, too, poked fun at music as he composed...  though his is a little
>easier to hear than is that of Beethoven.

And then there's the "Musical Joke" that in my opinion is as pathetic as
it is contrived, and the "poking fun at music" is hardly difficult to hear
there.......

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