Hi Randy Ted and all

My thoughts are tending towards Ted's, although I think that there  
are 4 groups:

Group # 1 - Neonics are not a problem for honeybees, other beneficial  
insects, humans, other mammals and fish. (Paul seems to fit here)

Group # 2 - As above if used as seed treatments only (except when  
there is dust problem during planting) and never used as a spray or  
ground drench. (Randy seems to fit here)

Group # 3 - Keep bouncing back and forth depending on what they last  
read. (I think that I fit here )

Group # 4 - All  neonics  are dangerous, as are GMOs, and should be  
banned immediately (Europe seems to fit here)


On 23-Mar-13, at 9:20 AM, randy oliver wrote:

>> Camp 1: All available on-the-ground evidence to date suggests that  
>> the
> neonics, WHEN USED AS SEED TREATMENTS, cause less environmental  
> harm than
> the insecticides that they replaced.
>
> Camp 2:  Based upon supposition, and despite the lack of any firm  
> evidence,
> the neonics are an ecological disaster that are leading to the end  
> of life
> as we know it.
>
> The first camp seems to be more reasonable to me.


Bob Darrell
Caledon Ontario (8C (46F) and sunny today, lotsa flight but no pollen  
seen)
Canada
44N80W

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