>
> >I'm thinking that right about now we should start hearing about serious
> bee losses form the treatment-free folks.


I don't see why you would expect that!  I sell hundreds of nucs each spring
to folk who never treat them, and it sounds like the majority of them live
for years, so long as kept in small apiaries.

The same for folk like Dean, who split heavily.  Such intense splitting
keeps varroa levels down for a year.

What I'm more interested in is the success rate treatment-free of folk in
non Africanized areas who have run more than say 100 hives for more than a
few years.  I know that the Russian bee breeders don't treat, and are
successful.

I'm curious to hear reports from other mid- to large-scale beeks who are
able to get by without treating.

-- 
Randy Oliver
Grass Valley, CA
www.ScientificBeekeeping.com

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