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Many readers of this list do not want to read more of this issue.               
                                                                                
I propose that all related postings use the Subject: of this message            
"NZ/Hawaii" to allow those who are NOT interested to delete without             
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First, a reminder that the list of pests and diseases referred to               
are not those 'known to exist' in New Zealand.  It is the complete              
list of everything that has ever been found into the past.  One might           
be very hard pressed to find some of them again...                              
                                                                                
> Note the claim that NZ is free of EFB is doubted by all old time bee          
> keepers that I have interviewed.                                              
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> The NZ folks know they are                                                    
> weak in their claim about EFB.                                                
                                                                                
By any and all recognised scientific, practical and regulatory means            
of measurement, over a long period of time, by many beekeepers,                 
advisory staff, inspectors and scientists, NZ states that there is no           
EFB here.  Mr Patton feels differently.  I would simply ask that he             
supply some evidence apart from his feelings.                                   
                                                                                
'Peer review' to which Mr Patton refers regularly demonstrate NZs               
freedom from EFB in thoroughly reputable and reliable manner.  Mr               
Patton's doubt of this indicates a basic problem with personalities             
rather than scientific method.                                                  
                                                                                
                                                                                
                                                                                
                                                                                
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