>
> It takes a lot more neonic to activate a vertebrate nACh receptor than an
> insect one, as determined by testing in mice and rats vs. various insects
> (although recent reports are showing that other verts...birds?
> fish?...might have greater receptor affinities for neonics than rodents
> do).  Once activated, that nACh receptor produces exactly the same cellular
> response no matter what crittur it is in.
>

My point- it all depends on how you define "response". In that one
paragraph you show that the response is both the same and different. Had
you started with that paragraph instead of staying on one side of the
discussion, all would have agreed.


Please recall that the main point of the discussion was supposed to be "how
> will adaptation to neonics develop?" and morphed into "what is the
> difference between nics and neonics?".
>

Yes, but learn from this, grasshopper, not to follow the rabbits but stay
on the true path.

(A total impossibility on the BeeL which makes it interesting and
educational.)

Bob Bill Truesdell
Bath, Maine

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