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I think Martin hit the nail on the head when he makes the distinction  
between 'acceptance' and 'understanding.'

On Mar 4, 2011, at 11:31 AM, Chuck Howarth wrote:

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> Kodi, that was exactly my point.  If one of our visitors explains  
> evolution as "survival of the fittest", would you conclude that they  
> do not understand the theory?  But if you take that position, you  
> would also have to agree that NO ONE completely understands the  
> mechanisms of evolution, including evolutionary biologists.  If they  
> did, there would be no need for further research in the field.  The  
> visitor who describes the mechanism as survival of the fittest does  
> have some understanding, just not very sophisticated or up to date.
>
> So it seems to me the question of whether the public "understands"  
> is too simplistic.  It is not an either/or — I understand it or I  
> don't — but rather a continuum.  When we look at studies that say  
> the public "doesn't understand the mechanism of evolution", it seems  
> a fair question to ask what definition of understanding the authors  
> used?
>
> On Mar 4, 2011, at 8:02 AM, Kodi Jeffery wrote:
>
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>> I have to apologize for getting nit-picky here, but we really need  
>> to avoid
>> using the term "survival of the fittest". It is a tautology (after  
>> all, the
>> way to determine "fitness" is based on who survives, so we have  
>> "survival
>> of the survivors). Numerous people hear this and say "of course --  
>> that's
>> why evolution is bunk!". The correct term is "Natural Selection",  
>> and I
>> think it can be useful to let people know that WE know that. But if  
>> we can
>> get people to understand natural selection as a mechanism, I think  
>> we've
>> gone a long way toward evolution education.
>>
>> Kodi R. Jeffery, Ph.D
>> Informal Science Educator
>> 801-368-6284
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>> Subject: Re: Creationists as proponents of academic freedom
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>> I saw a bumper sticker yesterday that read, "Honk if you understand
>> punctuated equilibrium"!  Which raises the question of what it  
>> means to say
>> that the public "understands" the mechanism of evolution.   
>> Understand at
>> what level?  Does "survival of the fittest" qualify, or would that  
>> indicate
>> misunderstanding?
>>
>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 5:10 AM, Martin Weiss wrote:
>>
>>> In a study of museum visitors to an exhibition, Explore Evolution,  
>>> Evans
>> shows
>>> that most museum visitors (to a natural history museum!) (72%)  
>>> accept
>>> evolution -even for the human, but that the majority misunderstand  
>>> the
>>> mechanisms. As for the general public, it is not clear that   
>>> anyone has
>>> tested it in that way.
>>
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