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Carlos Lois at MIT's Dept. of Brain and Cognitive Sciences working for years on canaries and how they learn songs. Apparently they are capable of stripping out old songs and inventing new ones…see page 2:
http://bcs.mit.edu/docs/newsevents/newsletters/bcsnewsletter_spring_2003.pdf
Beryl
On Aug 20, 2011, at 12:12 PM, Jennie Dusheck wrote:
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> It's all ever so cool. I somehow missed this.
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> But thinking about the idea that this gene function is convergent, I'm wondering if FoxP2 is more involved in listening well (for learning) than in vocalization per se? (Wikipedia says it "modulates neuroplasticity".)
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> I ask this because lots of animals in both lineages (birds/"reptiles" and mammals) have to learn to recognize sounds even if they don't vocalize very interestingly. Then the phenomenon doesn't have to be quite so stunningly convergent. Do people know?
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> I am probably being unclear, not having finished my coffee yet.
> Jennie Dusheck
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> At 6:01 AM -0700 8/20/11, Charlie Carlson wrote:
>> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=birds-share-language-gene
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>> Hi Martin et al,
>> To continue the segue, here's a bit more on the vocal capabilities of birds and neural genetic origins. There are even some more recent studies, which suggest some profound similarities behaviorally, with corresponding molecular and developmental aspects.
>> We call it "tweeting" for a reason, to stretch a point.
>> Enjoy,
>> C
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>> Charles Carlson
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