1,150 times as that is the ca. membership on this list. I am glad this
whole tempest in teapot took place since I misunderstood the book
description. Now I will BUY the book since it looks quite important.
Bob Schuyler
On 7/27/2010 10:34 AM, Carl Steen wrote:
> Jeez How many times do I have to apologize?
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> Carl Steen
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Terry Majewski<[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Tue, Jul 27, 2010 10:31 am
> Subject: Re: New: Catalogue of Ceramic Maker's Marks.
>
>
> I was really distressed by the harsh and petty comments about Erica's book=
> . We=20
> haven't even SEEN it yet. How about congratulating someone for caring enou=
> gh to=20
> get some of their research published? How about congratulating Mitch Allen=
> from=20
> Left Coast Press for publishing reasonably priced books on topics we're=20
> interested in? If the rest of us don't like it, let's put something out th=
> ere=20
> ourselves. Another thing, what Erica's book offers that is different from=
> Godden=20
> and all the other mark books we have on our shelves is that the marks are=
> those=20
> "found in North American archaeological sites." This is a very useful thin=
> g for=20
> historical archaeologists working on materials from sites in North America=
> to=20
> talk about where goods are coming from, consumer preference, etc. It might=
> even=20
> help us understand the American ceramic market better for the time period=
> Erica=20
> is focusing on. There's lots more to do on this topic, following on from=
> Neil=20
> Ewins' wonderful publication "Supplying the Present Wants of Our Yankee=20
> Cousins...": Staffordshire Ceramics and the American Market 1775-1880, Jou=
> rnal=20
> of Ceramic History Vol. 15, 1997, City Museum& Art Gallery, Stoke-on-Tren=
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> Finally, we have a lot to learn about ceramic goods made by the American,=
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> German, and French at that time from an archaeological context.
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> I guess what I'm trying to say is that there is no need to act in such an=
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> exclusionary way -- it discourages the growth and sustainability of our=20
> discipline, and it certainly doesn't represent professional, courteous beh=
> avior.
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> Enough said,
>
> Terry Majewski
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Carl=
> Steen
> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 7:09 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: New: Catalogue of Ceramic Maker's Marks.
>
> Again, not meant to discourage Erica from doing and publishing good resear=
> ch.=20
> The misleading sales pitch just hit me wrong. I only had a sip or two of=
> coffee=20
> myself, which may explain my grumpiness...
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> Carl Steen
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: erica gibson<[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Tue, Jul 27, 2010 9:52 am
> Subject: Re: New: Catalogue of Ceramic Maker's Marks.
>
>
> Wow! Talk about being ripped to shreds before I've even had my first cup=
> of
> coffee!
>
> Erica S. Gibson
> Lab/Collections Manager
> Anthropological Studies Center
> Sonoma State University
> Rohnert Park, CA
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> On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Carl Steen<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>> Sorry if I jumped the gun, but I get grumpy about hyperbole first thing=
>>
> in
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>> the morning.... I know I shouldn't discourage people from making the eff=
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> ort
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>> to put a good resource together.
>>
>>
>> Carl Steen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Melissa Diamanti<[log in to unmask]>
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Sent: Tue, Jul 27, 2010 9:10 am
>> Subject: Re: New: Catalogue of Ceramic Maker's Marks.
>>
>>
>> Whoa there fellow HISTARCHers!
>> Shouldn't you check out what the product actually has to offer before yo=
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> u
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>> slam
>> it?
>> I see from the webpage that the book is not available until October, but
>> why
>> assume the worst. Reading the blurb on the website, I found...
>>
>> " this catalog provides full information on both the history of the mark
>> and its
>> variants, as well as details about the manufacturer" (emphasis mine)
>>
>> This suggests that variants of one maker's mark are all counted together=
>>
> in
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>> the
>> 350, so it probably really covers a lot. It also indicates that there=
>>
> is
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>> information on the company behind a mark, not just the name and possible
>> dates,
>> as in Kovel& Kovel. So it could prove usefull after all.
>>
>> Meli Diamanti
>>
>> --- On Tue, 7/27/10, Caryn M. Berg<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
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>> From: Caryn M. Berg<[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: New: Catalogue of Ceramic Maker's Marks.
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Date: Tuesday, July 27, 2010, 1:17 AM
>>
>>
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>> Erica Gibson
>>
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