Hello, I haven't seen this covered yet, forgive me if it was. What brand do you all suggest for herbs? I think I have heard good things about Nature's Way? Or of course MotherLove.
Thanks,
Jane Madaj IBCLC
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From: Kershaw Jane <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Milk production and herbs
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Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 12:37 PM
I also have found VERY different results with different brands of herbs. I
recommend only one brand.
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On Behalf Of Linda Hill
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 10:25 AM
Subject: Milk production and herbs
Hi All,
I think I am just feeling a bit fed up today with the moms who call me
frustrated about their low milk supply, but then tell me that their baby sleeps
10 hours at night and the mom doesnt get up to pump during that stretch. I had
one mom who was soley pumping 4xday for 40 oz, and she was complaining about
having to pump 4x and wanted to know when she could go down to 3! I just feel
like screaming some times about how selfish our society has become! (I'm
speaking U.S. here) Moms choose to pump, so that "others" can feed
their babies. They are providing breastmilk, at least, so feel less guilty.
But they are unable to hold their babies 10 times a day to feed them! Ugh! Its
just so frustrating! I responded to one mother today with:
"It is ok to go 4-5 hours without pumping/breastfeeding, but not 9-10 !
That is where the harm is. When people ferberize their children to get them to
sleep longer, it works, but if they are breastfeeding and don't continue to
pump in the middle of the night, then their supply suffers. That is just the
hard truth. Our bodies were not meant to go that long without stimulation.
Thru-out history, babies have fed consistantly thru the night. It wasn't
until moms started working outside of the home, that we started to
"structure" their feeding schedules. SOME moms are able to do this,
because after the 9-10 hour stretch, they pump off 10-12 oz. As long as that
amount prevails, it is ok to go that long, but when it starts lessening, it is
time to add a pump in the middle somewhere. "
I HATE FERBERIZING! But I try to keep my personal opinions to myself and stay
"research based". There was just nothing sweeter in the whole world
than the time I spent breastfeeding my kids!
I was interviewed yesterday for the Babytalk Magazine regarding ways to
increase your milk supply. In my research, just to make sure I said everything
correctly and havent veered off onto my own opinion................ I came
across something interesting. It seems to me there is some confusion, at least
by me, as to the difference in the herbs "milk thistle" and
"blessed thistle". I hope someone can help me out here.
I have always suggested fenugreek and blessed thistle. I stopped suggesting
the blessed thistle some years back when I heard Dr. Hale mention how he had
looked at several different brands of blessed thistle only to discover that very
little blessed thistle was actually contained in any of the capsules!
Sometime recently I discovered thru reading that blessed thistle help defray to
gas that moms might experience from the fenugreek. So I now suggest blessed
thistle IF moms are having a difficult time handling the fenugreek.
But when I was researching for this interview, I found that in Ruth
Lawrence's book she states, upon listing the most prominent herbs :
"fenugreek, fennel, milk thistle (not blessed thistle, which is an
entirely
different species), lemongrass, goat's rue, and anise." Lisa
Marasco....are you out there??? What is the difference between milk thistle
and blessed thistle????
Thanks for letting me rant. I feel a little better.
Linda Hill RN, IBCLC
Austin, Tx
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