> But that's not what I presented at all!

Sorry if I misrepresented you Jim.  I'm entirely with you that there is no evidence that farm pesticides and CCD are linked, and that lax quarantine is to blame for many of our beekeeping problems.  The debate on Bee-L has helped shift me from a position of suspicion of pesticides as a cause of CCD to a belief that they are not.

Clothianidin has a somewhat tarnished reputation this side of the pond now, and I think that beekeepers here will need some convincing that it is harmless as a seed dressing on one of our main bee forage crops.

all the best

Gavin

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