If anyone had trouble making the site work for ordering the book on 
the first day of this discussion, it is now working fine. I got my 
pre-publication order in without any problems.

R.L. Schuyler

At 02:34 PM 7/27/2010, you wrote:
>All this discussion just goes to prove the old PR saw, that any news is go=
>od news.  All this back and forth has probably done more to get the word=
>  out about this book and boosted its sales considerably.  Even with the fi=
>rst PR blurb I had planned on getting it, but if I had any doubts they hav=
>e been allayed.=20
>
>Harding Polk II
>
>
>
>
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>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Warner, Mark <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Sent: Tue, Jul 27, 2010 12:17 pm
>Subject: Re: New: Catalogue of Ceramic Maker's Marks.
>
>
>Hi all,
>  just want to weigh in on Gibson's book since I've actually seen and used=
>  the=20
>hing.  Mitch asked me to review the draft of this volume.  Further, (with=
>=20
>itch's OK) I had our lab director 'test drive' the book as a for a big pro=
>ject=20
>'m working on in north Idaho.   Let's just accept that the term 'comprehen=
>sive'=20
>as a bit of an overstatement -- nothing is 'comprehensive' and the book is=
>=20
>ertainly not Godden-esq in size.  However, we've found it is a very useful=
>  book=20
>t is one we definitely will have as part of our library.  What is particul=
>arly=20
>ood about it is 1) an index that is far more exhaustive than anything I've=
>  seen=20
>you can search by individual words in marks) 2) the emphasis marks from th=
>e=20
>atter half of the 19th century 3) the emphasis on marks found in the weste=
>rn=20
>.S.   Anecdotally, the folks looking on this project have found several=20
>nstances were Gibson's work has marks that weren't found places like Godde=
>n,=20
>ovel or Kowalsky.   =20
>  I would strongly encourage folks to look past the obvious hyperbole of th=
>e=20
>reliminary PR blurb, no book is going to solve all our ID challenges but=
>  I=20
>ould say that this is one that is a good addition to what we have availabl=
>e --=20
>nd it is a particularly useful addition to folks working in the western U.=
>S.
>
>ark Warner
>. of Idaho=20
>________________________________
>From: HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY on behalf of Robert L. Schuyler
>ent: Tue 7/27/2010 10:20 AM
>o: [log in to unmask]
>ubject: Re: New: Catalogue of Ceramic Maker's Marks.
>
>1,150 times as that is the ca. membership on this list. I am glad this
>hole tempest in teapot took place since I misunderstood the book
>escription. Now I will BUY the book since it looks quite important.
>Bob Schuyler
>On 7/27/2010 10:34 AM, Carl Steen wrote:
>  Jeez How many times do I have to apologize?
>  =3D20
>
>  =3D20
>
>  Carl Steen
>  =3D20
>
>  =3D20
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: Terry Majewski<[log in to unmask]>
>  To: [log in to unmask]
>  Sent: Tue, Jul 27, 2010 10:31 am
>  Subject: Re: New: Catalogue of Ceramic Maker's Marks.
>
>
>  I was really distressed by the harsh and petty comments about Erica's boo=
>k=3D
>  . We=3D20
>  haven't even SEEN it yet. How about congratulating someone for caring eno=
>u=3D
>  gh to=3D20
>  get some of their research published? How about congratulating Mitch Alle=
>n=3D
>    from=3D20
>  Left Coast Press for publishing reasonably priced books on topics we're=
>=3D20
>  interested in? If the rest of us don't like it, let's put something out=
>  th=3D
>  ere=3D20
>  ourselves. Another thing, what Erica's book offers that is different from=
>=3D
>    Godden=3D20
>  and all the other mark books we have on our shelves is that the marks are=
>=3D
>    those=3D20
>  "found in North American archaeological sites." This is a very useful thi=
>n=3D
>  g for=3D20
>  historical archaeologists working on materials from sites in North Americ=
>a=3D
>    to=3D20
>  talk about where goods are coming from, consumer preference, etc. It migh=
>t=3D
>    even=3D20
>  help us understand the American ceramic market better for the time period=
>=3D
>    Erica=3D20
>  is focusing on. There's lots more to do on this topic, following on from=
>=3D
>    Neil=3D20
>  Ewins' wonderful publication "Supplying the Present Wants of Our Yankee=
>=3D20
>  Cousins...": Staffordshire Ceramics and the American Market 1775-1880, Jo=
>u=3D
>  rnal=3D20
>  of Ceramic History Vol. 15, 1997, City Museum&  Art Gallery, Stoke-on-Tre=
>n=3D
>  t.=3D20
>  Finally, we have a lot to learn about ceramic goods made by the American,=
>=3D
>  =3D20
>  German, and French at that time from an archaeological context.
>
>  I guess what I'm trying to say is that there is no need to act in such an=
>=3D
>  =3D20
>  exclusionary way -- it discourages the growth and sustainability of our=
>=3D20
>  discipline, and it certainly doesn't represent professional, courteous be=
>h=3D
>  avior.
>
>  Enough said,
>
>  Terry Majewski
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Carl=
>=3D
>    Steen
>  Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 7:09 AM
>  To: [log in to unmask]
>  Subject: Re: New: Catalogue of Ceramic Maker's Marks.
>
>  Again, not meant to discourage Erica from doing and publishing good resea=
>r=3D
>  ch.=3D20
>  The misleading sales pitch just hit me wrong. I only had a sip or two of=
>=3D
>    coffee=3D20
>  myself, which may explain my grumpiness...
>  =3D20
>
>  =3D20
>
>  Carl Steen
>  =3D20
>
>  =3D20
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: erica gibson<[log in to unmask]>
>  To: [log in to unmask]
>  Sent: Tue, Jul 27, 2010 9:52 am
>  Subject: Re: New: Catalogue of Ceramic Maker's Marks.
>
>
>  Wow! Talk about being ripped to shreds before I've even had my first cup=
>=3D
>    of
>  coffee!
>
>  Erica S. Gibson
>  Lab/Collections Manager
>  Anthropological Studies Center
>  Sonoma State University
>  Rohnert Park, CA
>  [log in to unmask]
>
>  On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Carl Steen<[log in to unmask]>  wrote:
>
>   =20
> > Sorry if I jumped the gun, but I get grumpy about hyperbole first thing=
>=3D
> >    =20
>    in
>   =20
> > the morning.... I know I shouldn't discourage people from making the eff=
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> >    =20
>  ort
>   =20
> > to put a good resource together.
> >
> >
> > Carl Steen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Melissa Diamanti<[log in to unmask]>
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> >   Sent: Tue, Jul 27, 2010 9:10 am
> > Subject: Re: New: Catalogue of Ceramic Maker's Marks.
> >
> >
> > Whoa there fellow HISTARCHers!
> > Shouldn't you check out what the product actually has to offer before yo=
>=3D
> >    =20
>  u
>   =20
> > slam
> > it?
> > I see from the webpage that the book is not available until October, but
> > why
> > assume the worst.  Reading the blurb on the website, I found...
> >
> > " this catalog provides full information on both the history of the mark
> > and its
> > variants, as well as details about the manufacturer" (emphasis mine)
> >
> > This suggests that variants of one maker's mark are all counted together=
>=3D
> >    =20
>    in
>   =20
> > the
> > 350, so it probably really covers a lot.  It also indicates that there=
>=3D
> >    =20
>    is
>   =20
> > information on the company behind a mark, not just the name and possible
> > dates,
> > as in Kovel&  Kovel.  So it could prove usefull after all.
> >
> > Meli Diamanti
> >
> > --- On Tue, 7/27/10, Caryn M. Berg<[log in to unmask]>  wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Caryn M. Berg<[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: New: Catalogue of Ceramic Maker's Marks.
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Date: Tuesday, July 27, 2010, 1:17 AM
> >
> >
> > A Comprehensive Catalogue of Ceramic Maker=3DE2=3D80=3D99s Marks=3DE2=3D=
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> > allow for searches by manufacturer, location, mark elements, and common
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> > archaeologists, but material culture specialists, collectors, museum
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>obert L. Schuyler
>niversity of Pennsylvania Museum
>260 South Street
>hiladelphia, PA l9l04-6324
>Tel: (215) 898-6965
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