Very well said Jerry, i have to agree, something else changed or came on the scene to start all this.Pesticides are not helping no doubt.
David H and I are great friends ,as you know from comming down here and getting the first samples with me out of David's bees which I had here, but we have to agree to disagree on the pesticides being the main "smoking gun".
As you know as well as any other reasearcher, when one thinks they have the gun in hand ,they hear  another shot fired in the other direction. 
  I just wish some answers could be determined ,so we could maybe know how to do things differently to get back closer to normal and being able to maintain numbers. I have had a better year ,the last half of 07 and first of 08 ,a different group of beekeepers are having problems. 
 My fear is when will the first ones of us to have ccd problems get them again,not to say our losses are normal ,but what is normal anymore??
  May the force bee with you ,Jerry

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