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Marianne Vanderveen-Kolkena <[log in to unmask]>
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Sun, 24 Feb 2008 11:47:27 +0100
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From: "Nikki Lee" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 5:43 AM
Subject: [LACTNET] interesting questions Marianne


> Dear Friends:
>
> How could babies have survived to childhood if they weren't honest about
> their basic needs.
>
> What a baby wants is the same as what it needs. To me the big  transition
> comes with the ability to travel independently. Once a baby becomes 
> mobile, what
> it wants and what it needs become 2 different things.  For  example: It 
> wants
> to stick the car keys into the electrical socket. It  doesn't need to do 
> that.
>
> A baby demanding to eat at 4 months....I would trust that completely. 
> Babies
> are born pure and honest; any dishonesty they learn comes from US!

**Hi Nikki,

So... is that a "yes" to this question I posed: "Are eager gross motor 
skills and an interested mind a trustworthy indication for instestinal 
maturation? Does gut closure always precede inquisitive faces,
grabbing little hands and demanding screams, so to say...?" Any research, to 
back up your stance...? ;o)
I'm jokingly serious, because like Chayn, I think we need to concentrate on 
gut closure. I don't think what baby wants is what baby needs, not always. 
Take a baby with phenylketonuria: it will long for the breast, but will die 
if it takes in his mother's milk... All the views promoting 'watching the 
baby' and 'not being too strict' only take into account the mental 
maturation, the curiosity and the ability to look at and reach for things; 
so far, I have not seen or heard about evidence that tells us more about gut 
maturity and the diversity in this process. The 6 month-idea must have come 
from somewhere. Does that somewhere also tell about possibly faster 
maturation of the GI tract? Which detectable milestones must have been 
reached before solids can be handled well?

Still keen ;-)),
kindly,

Marianne Vanderveen, Netherlands

P.S. Your view on the ability to travel independently is interesting, but a 
different topic. Did you read 'The Continuum Concept' by Jean Liedloff...? 
It shook my views and made me do away with the playpen with our next 
daughter: when a baby wants to roll and cover a bigger area, it needs to 
roll...! ;-) Well, as I said... different topic! hahaha 

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