I have an hypothesis - this only happens with people who "own" cats. I know
you have a large one, Iain. People who own dogs can probably get all the
messages in perfect form. The really odd thing is that this scrambling only
happens on occasions (with George) and, again, on occasions with other
HISTARCH members. Perhaps it is the server on our end of the process.
Bob Schuyler
At 05:37 PM 3/11/2006, you wrote:
>I get the same as Bob, George Miller's posts are all in some sort of code.
>
>Like Bob I would like to see his postings.
>
>yours
>
>Iain Stuart
>
>[log in to unmask]
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "HISTARCH automatic digest system" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 6:00 PM
>Subject: HISTARCH Digest - 7 Mar 2006 to 8 Mar 2006 (#2006-55)
>
>
> > There are 18 messages totalling 686 lines in this issue.
> >
> > Topics of the day:
> >
> > 1. Drinking straws (4)
> > 2. American open spaces (8)
> > 3. Midwestern Farmstead Biblio (5)
> > 4. Drinking straws - Pixie Stix
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 04:30:58 -0500
> > From: Ron May <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Drinking straws
> >
> > And before plastic and paper straws, there were glass "straws" advertised
>as
> > hygienic. And, just to keep the energy flow of George Meyers' mind dumps,
>I
> > might add that around 1953 or 1954 California schools got it in their
>minds
> > that amber glass milk bottles were more hygienic and retained vitamins
>longer
> > than those small half pint clear glass bottles.
> >
> > Ron May
> > Legacy 106, Inc.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 07:40:11 -0500
> > From: david G Orr <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: American open spaces
> >
> > The literature of landscapes and culture is IMMENSE! One
> > sort of ancillary volume is reread by me personally again
> > and again. It presents open expanse and vast unbroken
> > landscapes from another perspective. read Barry Lopez's
> > wondrous Arctic Dreams. dgo
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 08:03:29 -0500
> > From: jakob crockett <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: American open spaces
> >
> > William,
> >
> > Although not archaeology, Kenneth Robert Olwig's book, "Landscape,
> > Nature, and the Body Politic" provides a great overview of the
> > development of landscape thinking and concludes with a chapter on
> > ideas of landscape, country, and nature in the United States.
> >
> > Jake
> >
> > --
> > Jakob Crockett
> >
> > Department of Anthropology
> > University of South Carolina
> > Hamilton College, Room 317
> > Columbia, SC 29208
> >
> > Phone: (803) 777-6500
> >
> > --
> >
> > Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 07:09:30 -0800
> > From: william McAlexander <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: American open spaces
> >
> > Greetings one and all,
> > I was wondering if anyone out there knew of any good sources to examine
>=3D
> > concerning open expanse thinking in North America? That would be the =3D
> > U.S., Canada, and Mexico. Has there been any landscape archaeology =3D
> > analysis all this boundless space to do whatever we want with?=3D20
> >
> > Thanks,
> > William E. McAlexander Jr. =3D
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 09:37:41 -0800
> > From: Joe Dent <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: American open spaces
> >
> > on 3/8/06 4:40 AM, david G Orr at [log in to unmask] wrote:
> >
> > > The literature of landscapes and culture is IMMENSE! One
> > > sort of ancillary volume is reread by me personally again
> > > and again. It presents open expanse and vast unbroken
> > > landscapes from another perspective. read Barry Lopez's
> > > wondrous Arctic Dreams. dgo
> >
> >
> > And let's not forget another classic - William Cronon's, "Changes in the
> > Land: Indians, Colonists, and the Ecology of New England." It's full of
> > ideas applicable to any region....
> >
> > joe dent
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 11:55:39 -0500
> > From: Ron May <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: American open spaces
> >
> > The entire concept of undeveloped land has been a cultural thing. Many
>early
> > settlers saw raw, natural land full of gnarly old trees as something to be
> > feared, evil and metaphysical that had to be tamed by removing forests,
>grading
> > the land, and harnessing the waters. Ethnic roots of these odd ideas are
> > fascinating in themselves.
> >
> > Ron May
> > Legacy 106, Inc.
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 12:14:27 -0500
> > From: "Davis, Daniel (KYTC)" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: American open spaces
> >
> > I'm fairly certain that concept is still largely in vogue. The =
> > "wilderness", be it pasture, forest, or two-lane country road is seen as =
> > not being productive. Some folks feel that we must "help" these areas =
> > reach their full potential, which would be the economic gold mines of =
> > Wal-Mart, McDonalds, and strip malls. Huzzah!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Ron
> > May
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 11:56 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: American open spaces
> >
> >
> > The entire concept of undeveloped land has been a cultural thing. Many =
> > early=20
> > settlers saw raw, natural land full of gnarly old trees as something to =
> > be =20
> > feared, evil and metaphysical that had to be tamed by removing forests, =
> > grading=20
> > the land, and harnessing the waters. Ethnic roots of these odd ideas =
> > are =20
> > fascinating in themselves.
> > =20
> > Ron May
> > Legacy 106, Inc.
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 12:42:12 -0500
> > From: George Myers <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: American open spaces
> >
> > One history that incorporates archaeology (by a "...Pulitzer
> > Prize-winning biographer of FDR, Winston Churchill, and Somerset
> > Maugham") "Wilderness at Dawn The Settling of the North American
> > Continent" by Ted Morgan, published by Simon and Schuster, c) 1993 is
> > interesting incorporating archaeology:
> >
> > "Concentrating on those previously ignored by "polite histories"
> > (ordinary settlers, unknown soldiers, scalawags, pioneer women,
> > slaves, and Native Americans), Morgan uses scenes and dialogue from
> > actual letters, journals, and diaries to recreate the odysseys,
> > adventures, human dramas, and the inhuman suffering that shaped
> > America." from the inside front jacket cover.
> > ...
> > "Enriched by Ted Morgan's own visits to most of the sites he
> > describes, enlivened by the actual words of characters such as
> > circuit-riding minister Charles Woodmason, the freed slave Thomas
> > Jeremiah, the frontiersman Christopher Gist and the plantation
> > manager,Eliza Lucas, Wilderness at Dawn is a lively world of rich
> > historical storytelling and adventure." closing paragraph in the
> > inside back jacket.
> >
> > Sort of like Gordon Parks' film "Leadbelly" putting real faces on
> > historical records, and rescuing "blacks in American cinema"
> >
> > George Myers
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 13:55:15 -0500
> > From: "Efstathios I. Pappas" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: American open spaces
> >
> > I am a particular fan of the works by Cronon, Marx, and Stilgoe which=20
> > have been already mentioned and would add that the idea of stewardship=20
> > of the landscape in order to render it productive is an important part=20
> > of American history and expansion. Not only could wilderness stand for=20
> > irrationality and fear as Stilgoe holds, but he also notes it is=20
> > counter to a producer ethos which values a "middle landscape" of=20
> > improved, constantly worked land. Blanton similarly notes that "a=20
> > mindset among these colonists (was) that it was their rightful place,=20
> > even duty, to make the Virginia environment a productive one, which in=20
> > their view usually meant imposing an English model" (Rockman and Steele=20
> > 2003: 191). This idea of a proper aesthetic associated with cultural=20
> > values of improvement can also be juxtaposed with the study of=20
> > dereliction and revitalization of which Jakle or Hofer would be notable=20
> > authors. As an industrial archaeologist I have found these sources to=20
> > be important for studying the modern post-industrial landscape in North=20
> > America. I am in the process of putting together a session for the SHAs=20
> > this year focusing on landscapes of labor and phenomenological=20
> > approaches (Tilley 1994) for understanding the goals, values, and=20
> > identities of different participants within these contested landscapes.=20
> > If anyone is interested in talking more about this please email me=20
> > personally.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Stathi Pappas
> >
> > ______________________________________________________
> >
> > Efstathios I. Pappas, MS
> > Doctoral Student
> > Department of Anthropology/096
> > University of Nevada, Reno
> > Reno, NV 89557
> > (775) 323-5730
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Davis, Daniel (KYTC) <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Sent: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 12:14:27 -0500
> > Subject: Re: American open spaces
> >
> > I'm fairly certain that concept is still largely in vogue. The=20
> > "wilderness", be
> > it pasture, forest, or two-lane country road is seen as not being=20
> > productive.
> > Some folks feel that we must "help" these areas reach their full=20
> > potential,
> > which would be the economic gold mines of Wal-Mart, McDonalds, and=20
> > strip malls.
> > Huzzah!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Ron
> > May
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 11:56 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: American open spaces
> >
> >
> > The entire concept of undeveloped land has been a cultural thing.
>Many=20
> > early
> > settlers saw raw, natural land full of gnarly old trees as something=20
> > to be
> > feared, evil and metaphysical that had to be tamed by removing=20
> > forests, grading
> > the land, and harnessing the waters. Ethnic roots of these odd ideas=20
> > are
> > fascinating in themselves.
> >
> > Ron May
> > Legacy 106, Inc.
> >
> > =20
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 15:15:07 -0500
> > From: Marty Pickands <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Drinking straws
> >
> > Oh, yes! Doesn't anyone remember ""Flav-r-Straws"? They were paper with
> > a flexible neck and a strip of cardboard down the inside impregnated
> > with flavoring for your milk. I remember then as ca. 1960.
> >
> > Marty Pickands
> >
> > >>> [log in to unmask] 03/07/06 10:03 PM >>>
> > I don't have much memory of plastic straws...since I didn't grow up
> > (and
> > still don't) drinking sodas...or drinks from fast food establishments.
> > But...I seem to remember using flexi-straws (bendible) - and that
> > would
> > mean plastic - no? ...as a kid (1960s)...when we were sick...and mom
> > used them to make it easier for us to drink. ??? I remember the straw
> > box with a clown face on it, even...but, those may have been the waxed
> > paper ones. ?? I bet she still has it in her drawer!
> >
> > Did you know... In 1888, Marvin Stone patented the spiral winding
> > process to manufacture the first paper drinking straws. ?
> >
> > Otherwise, I'm coming up empty-handed searching online (even tho Sarah
> > didn't want an online source) for development of plastic straws.
> >
> > Just called my mom, and Yep...the box of straws is in the drawer I
> > remember (16 of the original 40 remain). It is 'Scoopy Plastic
> > Flexible
> > Straws,' with Scoopy the Safe-T-Cone Clown...and there's even the
> > dates
> > of 1965-1973 on the box.
> > But...here's a webpage about them (more or less). Ha!
> > http://scoopy.anastrophe.com/
> >
> > And here's a box, from 1963, selling on e-bay:
> > http://cgi.ebay.ca/Vintage-1963-Scoopys-Tuff-Tip-Flexible-STRAWS_W0QQite
> >
> > mZ6610609597
> >
> > Yet in 1957...the Scoopy brand staws were paper - with a colored
> > stripe
> > (different colors per pack):
> > http://www.antiqnet.com/detail,vintage-advertising-paper,672919.html
> >
> > Boy...that takes me down memory lane. :o)
> >
> > Yes...I know...I get a bit off the track. But, at least Sarah knows
> > the
> > transition from paper to plastic straws was some where between 1957
> > and
> > 1963...probably. ??? Oh wait, the ebay straw box doesn't show the
> > word
> > 'plastic' tho... ?? Would paper straws flexi-bend tho?
> >
> >
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Dan Allen [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > >Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 3:17 PM
> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >Subject: Re: Drinking straws
> > >
> > >
> > >Drawing only from memory and oral history, friends and I
> > >remember using
> > >waxed paper straws well into the 1960s. I personally believe
> > >the shift to
> > >plastic occurred in the late 1960s coinciding with the rise of
> > >MacDonalds,
> > >the Krystal, Dairy Queen, and other fast food chains. Now the
> > >damn things
> > >are in every field and stream near a road:(
> > >
> > >dan allen
> > >cumberland Research group, inc.
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Sarah Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 12:13 PM
> > >Subject: Drinking straws
> > >
> > >
> > >> Does anyone know of a citable reference (preferably
> > >> not from the internet) for the beginning date of the
> > >> plastic drinking straw and/or the date around which it
> > >> came into common use? I have info on the history of
> > >> the drinking straw in general, and a date for flexible drinking
> > >> straws, but nothing about specific dates for the plastic drinking
> > >> straw.
> > >>
> > >> Any suggestions?
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >>
> > >> Sarah
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Sarah E. Miller
> > >> Kentucky Archaeological Survey
> > >> 1020 A. Export Street
> > >> Lexington, KY 40506
> > >> USA
> > >>
> > >> phone: 859-257-1944
> > >> fax: 859-323-1968
> > >>
> > >> __________________________________________________
> > >> Do You Yahoo!?
> > >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
> > >> http://mail.yahoo.com
> > >>
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 14:25:04 -0600
> > From: Mark Branstner <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Midwestern Farmstead Biblio
> >
> > --
> > I am currently trying to develop a bibliography of articles, reports,
> > etc. relative to the archaeology of nineteenth century farmsteads
> > here in the Midwest. My sources are at least 10-20 years old, and
> > I'm pretty certain considerable work has been conducted since then.
> >
> > I'm guessing that some of you may have already done this, so any
> > suggestions would be appreciated. I guess I'm thinking mostly Old
> > Northwest, Midwest, and perhaps the bordering Upland South ...
> >
> > I would be glad to put it together at a later date, and make it
> > available to anyone who is interested.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Mark C. Branstner
> >
> > Illinois Transportation
> > Archaeological Research Program
> > 209 Nuclear Physics Lab, MC-571
> > 23 East Stadium Drive
> > Champaign, IL 61820
> >
> > Phone: 217.244.0892
> > Fax: 217.244.7458
> > Cell: 517.927.4556
> > [log in to unmask]
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 16:24:23 -0500
> > From: George Myers <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Drinking straws
> >
> > No, I remember they used to fill the paper ones with sugar crystals
> > and flavoring, crimp the ends and sell them to kids. They might even
> > still be around tasted like Kool-Aid without the water. They were
> > striped like barber's poles I think with different colors. Whoopee!
> >
> > George
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 16:37:44 -0500
> > From: "George L. Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Midwestern Farmstead Biblio
> >
> >
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 14:19:20 -0800
> > From: Anita Cohen-Williams <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Drinking straws
> >
> > I think that you are referring to Pixie Sticks, which are still
> > around, and are huge.
> >
> > On 3/8/06, George Myers <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > No, I remember they used to fill the paper ones with sugar crystals
> > > and flavoring, crimp the ends and sell them to kids. They might even
> > > still be around tasted like Kool-Aid without the water. They were
> > > striped like barber's poles I think with different colors. Whoopee!
> > >
> > > George
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Anita Cohen-Williams
> > Search Engine Optimizer/Guru
> > http://www.mysearchguru.com
> >
> > AnitaSearch - The Nuts and Bolts of SEO
> > http://anitasearch.blogspot.com
> >
> > LinkedIn Profile
> > https://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=3D&key=3D100066
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 16:29:37 -0600
> > From: Mark Branstner <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Midwestern Farmstead Biblio
> >
> > George,
> >
> > Thanks. I was aware of the NY volume, which is excellent. Although
> > I suggested Midwestern literature, that is clearly pretty arbitrary,
> > since so many of the local immigrants were, in fact, emigrants from
> > New England and the generalized Northeast, and here in Illinois,
> > points south ...
> >
> > Thanks again
> > --
> >
> >
> > Mark C. Branstner
> >
> > Illinois Transportation
> > Archaeological Research Program
> > 209 Nuclear Physics Lab, MC-571
> > 23 East Stadium Drive
> > Champaign, IL 61820
> >
> > Phone: 217.244.0892
> > Fax: 217.244.7458
> > Cell: 517.927.4556
> > [log in to unmask]
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 17:45:06 -0500
> > From: "Robert L. Schuyler" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Midwestern Farmstead Biblio
> >
> > George:
> > For some reason your HISTARCH messages are not coming to me
> > translated and this has never happened before.
> > I wonder if others on HISTARCH are having the same problem? Just a lot of
> > letters and numbers. Of course, we want to always know what you are
>saying!
> >
> > Bob Schuyler
> >
> > At 04:37 PM 3/8/2006, you wrote:
> >
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> > Robert L. Schuyler
> > University of Pennsylvania Museum
> > 3260 South Street
> > Philadelphia, PA l9l04-6324
> >
> > Tel: (215) 898-6965
> > Fax: (215) 898-0657
> > [log in to unmask]
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 14:48:59 -0800
> > From: Anita Cohen-Williams <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Midwestern Farmstead Biblio
> >
> > Bob,
> >
> > I have this problem on and off with George's posts, as well as some
> > posts from our NPS subscribers.
> >
> > On 3/8/06, Robert L. Schuyler <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > George:
> > > For some reason your HISTARCH messages are not coming to me
> > > translated and this has never happened before.
> > > I wonder if others on HISTARCH are having the same problem? Just a lot
>of
> > > letters and numbers. Of course, we want to always know what you are
>sayin=
> > g!
> > >
> >
> > Anita Cohen-Williams
> > Search Engine Optimizer/Guru
> > http://www.mysearchguru.com
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 16:35:15 -0800
> > From: Carol Serr <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Drinking straws - Pixie Stix
> >
> > Pixie Stix! Kids walking home from school used to buy them (1 cent per
> > 'stix') at the corner market. Occasionally a friend would give me one
> > (I didn't have any money to buy anything)...not like I needed a straight
> > shot of Sugar tho! But yes, they were like Kool-Aid powder...tart and
> > sweet. Guess they are still made...=20
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixie_Stix
> >
> > While going down memory lane...anyone remember Kool-Aids rival...'Funny
> > Face' drink mixes? Can you name all the flavors?
> >
> > Hint: http://theimaginaryworld.com/ffpac.html
> >
> > My mom took us off all sugar/candy when I was 6... I was a deprived
> > child. (ha ha) Doesn't mean I refused candy at friends houses tho. :o)
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: George Myers [mailto:[log in to unmask]]=20
> > >Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 1:24 PM
> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >Subject: Re: Drinking straws
> > >
> > >
> > >No, I remember they used to fill the paper ones with sugar=20
> > >crystals and flavoring, crimp the ends and sell them to kids.=20
> > >They might even still be around tasted like Kool-Aid without=20
> > >the water. They were striped like barber's poles I think with=20
> > >different colors. Whoopee!
> > >
> > >George
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 20:16:54 -0500
> > From: Ron May <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: American open spaces
> >
> > Other ideas concerning open space should include Arts & Crafts Movement
>and
> > City Beautiful Movements, both of which meandered between a mystical
>nature
> > and something to be controlled. There are a number of references in Arts &
> > Crafts to "Middle Earth" and returning to the earth, especially in
>architecture
> > and the embracement of native stone and wood.
> >
> > Ron May
> > Legacy 106, Inc.
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > End of HISTARCH Digest - 7 Mar 2006 to 8 Mar 2006 (#2006-55)
> > ************************************************************
Robert L. Schuyler
University of Pennsylvania Museum
3260 South Street
Philadelphia, PA l9l04-6324
Tel: (215) 898-6965
Fax: (215) 898-0657
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