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Donna Ron <[log in to unmask]>
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Sun, 29 May 2005 09:35:10 +0200
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Would a baby "nurse like a champ" for 15 minutes if he wasn't getting
anything at all?
Donna Ron, MHA, IBCLC, LLL 

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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Renee Drake
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 5:01 PM
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Subject: No milk at all-advise please??

I have permission to post.  First off this is an internet  chat friend whom
I have known for about 2 years now,  I have not physically  seen her, only
know what I have asked and how she answered.  Her baby is 8  days old today,
and though she says her breasts are "getting hard and lumpy"  nothing is
coming out.  She states she has tried massage, electric pumping,  showering,
everything the nurses at the hospital have told her to try  and....Nothing.
I spoke to her (via internet) while baby was 24 hours old  and she was still
in hospital.  
She said she had no colostrum coming out,  and the nurses had put the baby
on formula because "nothing was coming out at  all".  I explained to her
that colostrum would be very little esp at 24  hours, but she insists there
is nothing.  She is still putting baby to  breast and she says he "nurses
like a champ" 
but gets mad after "15 minutes of  not getting anything"  I asked about
suck/swallow and she isn't sure (and I  can't witness) She then gives abm
after the "nursing".  She says her  breasts feel hard and lumpy and then
after awhile "it goes away".  I could  not ascertain if it went away after a
"nursing".  She doesn't have much  support from dad, he tells her to quit
worrying about it and just switch to abm,  the LC at her hospital is part
time and has yet to call her back.  WIC  tells her (via phone) just to keep
trying.  I have put her in touch with  LLL so maybe SOMEONE will see this
dyad.  She says she is going to try a  little while longer, but then is
going to give up.  her breasts are hurting  and so she is uncomfortable.  I
gave her the Jack Newman internet hand out  on RPS (haven't heard if she
tried it) and don't know if that will even help her  situation.  Do any of
you have an idea of what could be happening here?  In my LIMITED experience,
I have never seen where the breasts are  
filling, but nothing is coming out (btw-she has NOT had breast surgery)
Any 
advice would be greatly appreciated.
 
Renee Drake RN CLC
 
 
 

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