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I have had good success with Moir's formula. Roenke tends to be too early
in my experience.

Pat Garrow

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From: Jay and Beth Stottman [log in to unmask]
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 13:53:19 -0500
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Subject: Re: Window glass dating formulas


I do not think that window glass dating is real useful overall.  I have used
all three formulas and found that Moir and Roenke work best, I prefer Moir's
formula.  I could never really get good dates with Ball's formula and I work
in the Ohio Valley.  The formulas only work for Antebellum sites.  I have
not been able to get them to work at all for Post bellum sites.  However, I
generally think that they are a waste of time in most cases.  Ceramics are
much better way to date a site even with time lag problems.  In certain
situations, I think there is some utility to using window glass dating, but
I don't employ it as a standard analysis.

Here are the references for the formulas:

Ball, Donald
1983  Approaches Towards the Dating of 19th Century Ohio Flat Glass.
Proceedings of the Symposium on Ohio Valley Urban and Historic Archaeology.
2:24-36.

Moir, Randall
1987  Socioeconomic and Chronometric Patterning of Window Glass.  In
Historic Buildings, Material Culture, and People of the Prairie Margin,
edited by David H. Jurney and Randall W. Moir, pp.73-81.  Richland Creek
Technical Series, Vol. 5.  Southern Methodist University, Dallas.

Roenke, Karl
1978  Flat Glass:  Its Uses as a Dating Tool for Nineteenth Century
Archaeological Sites in the Pacific Northwestand Elsewhere.  Northwest
Anthropological Research Notes Memoir 4, Department of Sociology and
Anthropology, University of Idaho, Moscow.

Sorry I don't have the formulas handy at the moment.  Let me know if you
can't get them and I will dig them out and give them to you.

M. Jay Stottman
Kentucky Archaeological Survey


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dylan Stapleton" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 4:54 PM
Subject: Window glass dating formulas


> What is the consensus, if any, on the reliability of window glass dating
> regression formulas? Is there a preferred formula for use on mid to late
> 19th century West coast sites, i.e. Roenke 1978, Moir 1987, Ball 1982,
1983?
> I?ve requested Roenke?s article through interlibrary loan in order to
obtain
> his formula, but if anyone has or knows the formula and the accompanying
> reference table, could you please post it? Additionally, if anyone has
> access to alternative formulas please post along with the reference
> information. Thanks in advance for any suggestions you can give me.

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