David Runnion, for whom I made the mistake of speaking, asks me:

>>Perhaps David should have phrased it this way: You are listening to Cage's
>>4'33" if you think you are.  Just as you are "listening" to Beethoven's 3rd
>>if it or a fragment of it is playing in your head.
>
>Welllll, something like that.  No, my feeling is that you are listening
>to Cage when it is actually a concert situation and there are performer(s)
>on stage doing absolutely nothing except trying not to laugh.

How about recalling the experience in memory? In other words, conjuring
up the "frame" and the various details in your head? It seems to me,
there's really very little difference in the mechanics between recalling
Beethoven's 3rd and Cage's 4'33".  Perhaps you're not, in the case of Cage,
"listening" at all, but more reconstructing the experience of it.  Very
Zen.

Steve Schwartz