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I appreciate that, but I think calling makers lab a fad underplays it's
significance. Here is an opportunity for science centers to play a much
bigger game, perhaps create next generation of inventors. Would mean
looking beyond what science centers typical do.


On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Charles Carlson <[log in to unmask]
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> The Exploratorium was not considered a science museum, nor art museum, nor
> recognized locally or internationally as much of anything being worthy of
> attention. We in fact got the PFA, because space abhors a vacuum.  It was a
> politically expedient move.   It was a crazy idea with some interesting
> crazy props called exhibits.  The actual position of the original Tactile
> Gallery and the Steam Engine, as well as other museum exhibits were
> strategical placed to prevent territorial encroachment by our hostile
> co-tenants.
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> As with just about everything that happens under "learning,"  humans are
> horrible research model organisms.  We're stuck with it however.  It's easy
> "to know" when something's working and difficult to prove.
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> On Aug 3, 2013, at 7:50 AM, Eli Kuslansky <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> > Calling these lab a fad reminds me of a bank VP who was a mainframe guy
> > thought PCs were a fad. I wonder what the traditional science museum
> people
> > were saying in 164 when the Exploratorium opened? In this challenging
> > environment with science centers struggling to retain their relevance and
> > expand their audience beyond younger kids, experiments like this are
> > essential even if the final version looks a lot different. The
> sustainable
> > model for these labs are not evident yet.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Eric Siegel <[log in to unmask]>
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> >> Thats an interesting historical note, charlie.
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> >> e
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> >> On Aug 3, 2013, at 12:45 AM, Charles Carlson <
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> >>> Its a fad that comes and goes periodically.   It will ultimately prove
> >> too costly to operate  on a continuous basis, but is well worth the
> passing
> >> investment of time and energy.  I reflect that demonstrations and
> >> mentorship are not far from this domain of hands on museum activity.
> >>>
> >>> It may more than anything reflect the current job market for young
> >> people, and shifting social dynamics, and a lack of vocational and lab
> >> opportunities in schools.  It's a valuable component of hands on
> engagement
> >> via exhibits.
> >>>
> >>> In any case, it's heartening that museums can foster extended learning
> >> and tinkering.  It falls well within the current emphasis and interest
> in
> >> engineering in schools, and is lots of fun.
> >>>
> >>> The Exploratorium would have been a large tinkering space but was
> >> limited by resources.   Hands on exhibits were a compromise solution to
> the
> >> original problem, but they also found traction and efficacy with
> respect to
> >> learning.
> >>>
> >>> C
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